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Date: 05/08/07 09:58
Modern locomotive prices
Author: steeplecab

I've searched the site for a reference to the price of the newer road locomotives from EMD or GE. Nothing showed up. Can someone give me a ballpark price for say an SD70ACe ? I'd prefer BNSF if somebody has it. Thanks!



Date: 05/08/07 11:00
Re: Modern locomotive prices
Author: pal77

I remember reading $1.2M for DC and 1.8 for ac drive. Not absolutely positive Im sure someone will correct it incorrect.



Date: 05/08/07 11:03
Re: Modern locomotive prices
Author: fredkharrison

A new locomotive costs more than twice that of a rebuilt locomotive, and while it is more modern, delivery can take up to 10 months. Prices back in 2001 were from about $1,500,000 for DC units like an SD70 to about $2,300,000 for an AC unit such as the SD90MAC, with the average price for a new locomotive at about $1,700,000.

SD70ACe

Basic Features

Engine
16-710G3C-T2 High efficiency turbocharger
Electronic fuel injection
Tier-2 emissions certified
AC Traction Technology
Utilizes truck-controlled IGBT inverters for higher inherent reliability
Simple, robust motor design
Extends motor overhaul interval
Gen2 FIRE™ System

Transreflective LCD color display for enhanced readability
Provides a single integrated archive for ease of maintenance and troubleshooting
Based on an open architecture which supports numerous 3rd party applications
Various wireless communications packages available (Cellular, Wireless LAN, etc) to support IntelliTrain™ and Locomotive Management Services
HTSC Bolsterless Truck

Designed for one million miles between overhauls
Reduce maintenance due to fewer components
Specifications

Total weight on rails - 408,000 lbs.
Height - 15'11"
Overall length - 74'3" ft.
Fuel capacity - 4,900 gal.
Lube oil capacity - 420 gal.
Cooling water capacity - 275 gal.
Cab Features

Three seat crew arrangement
Ergonomic workstation
Increased leg clearance and mobility
Optimized access to the radio
Easier maintenance access
Enhanced HVAC ventilation
Air System

Direct drive air compressor
Wabtec FastBrake™ Locomotive Brake System
Advanced onboard diagnostics
FastBrake™ intelligence integrated into EM2000 and Gen2 FIRE™
Simpler FastBrake™ design allows for 50% reduction in parts count

OPTIONAL PERFORMANCE FEATURES
IntelliTrain - Remote monitoring and analysis
Radial truck
Integrated Distributed Power
Global Positioning System (GPS)
Electronic fuel gauge with or without dynamic AEI tags
Remote download of event recorder

Fred Harrison
Central Point, OR
CORPpower/JSS/EORS



Date: 05/08/07 12:55
Re: Modern locomotive prices
Author: Steamjocky

They need to do some more work on the LCD displays as they are almost impossible to see when direct sunlight hits the screens and make the numbers a little large for us old guys. They also need to work on the ergonomic work stations, or control stands in laymans language, which is still somewhat uncomfortable. They also need to do something about the electronic automatic brake valve or bring back a real brake valve that is actually usable, which I'm sure they won't do. To me, it's kind of hard to get the feel for the train or locomotive consist with the two electronic brake valves.

Am I the only engineer who feels this way?

JDE - feeling like a dinosaur



Date: 05/08/07 14:05
Re: Modern locomotive prices
Author: wa4umr

fredkharrison Wrote:

> SD70ACe
>
> Basic Features
>
> Engine
> 16-710G3C-T2 High efficiency turbocharger
> Electronic fuel injection
> Tier-2 emissions certified
> AC Traction Technology
.
.
.
> Radial truck
> Integrated Distributed Power
> Global Positioning System (GPS)
> Electronic fuel gauge with or without dynamic AEI
> tags
> Remote download of event recorder


Gee. Wouldn't you love to get a blank window sticker and put all that stuff on it and stick it in the window at a new car or truck dealership? Talk about sticker shock, especially if you put the price and a realistic fuel usage guestimate on it.

John



Date: 05/08/07 15:19
Re: Modern locomotive prices
Author: ACR_Ted

And I can remember when you could get 3 new SD40's for $1 million in your choice of colors ;)

Ted



Date: 05/08/07 19:17
Re: Modern locomotive prices
Author: EMD645V-20

On the GE side of things, CSX I heard is paying 1.4 Million apiece for there ES44DC's. Now they get there stuff pretty bare-bones, and don't have half the tecno-crap that BNSF would put in the same loco. Like distributed power, pace-setter equipment. They did get the remote downloading and special ordered extra weight on the loco making it one of there "Heavies" rated at 432,000 lbs. Versus BNSF's 420,000 I believe.



Date: 05/08/07 21:47
Re: Modern locomotive prices
Author: wigwagfan

steeplecab Wrote:
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> I've searched the site for a reference to the
> price of the newer road locomotives from EMD or
> GE. Nothing showed up. Can someone give me a
> ballpark price for say an SD70ACe ? I'd prefer
> BNSF if somebody has it. Thanks!


According to page 17 of BNSF's 2006 Annual Report, BNSF was in the process of purchasing 200 locomotives at a cost of $350 million - or $1.75M per locomotive - in Fiscal Year 2007.



Date: 05/09/07 09:17
Re: Modern locomotive prices
Author: SLOCONDR

Steamjocky Wrote:
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> Am I the only engineer who feels this way?

Who ever said you were an Engineer ???



> JDE - feeling like a dinosaur


Lookin' like one too......



Date: 05/09/07 11:52
Re: Modern locomotive prices
Author: GP40X

Any idea of the price delta between HTSC and HTCR trucks?



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