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Date: 11/08/12 18:40
Utah Coal Miners laid off
Author: jc76




Date: 11/08/12 18:57
Re: Utah Coal Miners laid off
Author: john1082

It sure is convenient to have a boogie man to blame when the article includes mention of lower natural gas prices!

John Gezelius
Tustin, CA



Date: 11/08/12 19:19
Business Times article on Natural Gas v. Coal
Author: zephyrus

Interesting article that sums up the many reasons coal is losing ground. While air regulations are talked about, most of the article shows how the gas boom, leading to a huge supply and lower costs, are one of the main motivators of the switch.

http://www.ibtimes.com/king-coal-has-lost-crown-natural-gas-despite-price-decline-forecast-704008

While this is bad news for coal hauling railroads, to pin all this on the EPA or some mythical "War on Coal" is naive and ignores the many factors, including free market ones, that are leading to this dramatic change.

Z



Date: 11/08/12 20:16
Re: Business Times article on Natural Gas v. Coal
Author: tomstp

There is nothing mythical about the war on coal. Wait for new EPA rules coming out after the first of the year. I promise you it is war.



Date: 11/08/12 20:22
Re: Business Times article on Natural Gas v. Coal
Author: PHall

tomstp Wrote:
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> There is nothing mythical about the war on coal.
> Wait for new EPA rules coming out after the first
> of the year. I promise you it is war.

You have a cite for these new rules? Or is this second/third/fourth/fifthhand?



Date: 11/08/12 21:31
Re: Business Times article on Natural Gas v. Coal
Author: Western_Star

Google "2013 EPA coal regulations". Plenty of reading. Beyond the simple fact of natural gas being cheap, efficient, available, green, etc, there is plenty of political drama involved.


PHall Wrote:
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> tomstp Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There is nothing mythical about the war on coal.
>
> > Wait for new EPA rules coming out after the
> first
> > of the year. I promise you it is war.
>
> You have a cite for these new rules? Or is this
> second/third/fourth/fifthhand?



Date: 11/08/12 21:41
Re: Business Times article on Natural Gas v. Coal
Author: PHall

Western_Star Wrote:
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> Google "2013 EPA coal regulations". Plenty of
> reading. Beyond the simple fact of natural gas
> being cheap, efficient, available, green, etc,
> there is plenty of political drama involved.
>
>
> PHall Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > tomstp Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > There is nothing mythical about the war on
> coal.
> >
> > > Wait for new EPA rules coming out after the
> > first
> > > of the year. I promise you it is war.
> >
> > You have a cite for these new rules? Or is this
> > second/third/fourth/fifthhand?


Thanks for the cite!



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