Western Railroad Discussion > BNSF Lite power move GP30/35's

There is a Light Engine train running right now from Barstow to Chicago CSX. All the GP30's and GP35's are lettered LTEX. So we all know where those are going. Train will run thru AZ at night. People in NM and TX might have a good photo op. 23 of the old units in all.

Anyone notice of #2472 was in the mix?

Never got a decent shot of that thing.

erielackawanna Wrote:
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> Anyone notice of #2472 was in the mix?
>
> Never got a decent shot of that thing.


Nope not in that consist. Sorry.

I presume that these are all ex-BN or ATSF units? Farewell...B

doge_of_pocopson Wrote:
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> I presume that these are all ex-BN or ATSF units?
> Farewell...B

Should be ex-ATSF units.

Are there still more of these units stored at Barstow, or is that the last of them?

I saw this move east of Goffs just around sunset. The crew told a passing train that it is heading to Galesburg rather than Chicago, presumably for scrap. The final Altamont press California timetable states that BNSF was trying to sell these units back then--2009--so either it's found a buyer or it's simply given up. The LETX markings certainly looked as though they were there for convenience, not as an indication of a permanent homr.

And for the number crunchers out there, here are the units involved...

Train: D-BARCSX1-09M (Lite Units Move from Barstow, CA to CSX RR @ Chicago, IL)

BNSF 4311
BNSF 7794
LTEX 2414
LTEX 2561
LTEX 2516
LTEX 2443
LTEX 2441
LTEX 2409
LTEX 2466
LTEX 2574
LTEX 2430
LTEX 2573
LTEX 2558
LTEX 2545
LTEX 2530
LTEX 2578
LTEX 2563
LTEX 2580
LTEX 2519
LTEX 2446
LTEX 2535
LTEX 2465
LTEX 2470
LTEX 2442
BNSF 4328
BNSF 7325


Mr. MRL

Evan_Werkema Wrote:
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> Are there still more of these units stored at
> Barstow, or is that the last of them?


Here is what I can find... Looks like a few "LTEX" units missed the boat.

BNSF/LTEX GP30/GP35s listed at Barstow, CA...

GP30U (3)
BNSF 2400
LTEX 2428
BNSF 2433
BNSF 2459
LTEX 2462
LTEX 2468


GP35U (21)
BNSF 2590
BNSF 2591
BNSF 2592
BNSF 2595
BNSF 2596
BNSF 2600
BNSF 2602
BNSF 2605
BNSF 2609
BNSF 2612
BNSF 2613
BNSF 2615
BNSF 2618
BNSF 2619
BNSF 2626
BNSF 2627
BNSF 2628
BNSF 2629
BNSF 2632
BNSF 2638
BNSF 2645

Mr. MRL



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/10/12 23:21 by MrMRL.

Oh wow - so 2472 is gone already.

erielackawanna Wrote:
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> Oh wow - so 2472 is gone already.


2472 does not appear on the system. Can't find it anywhere...

Mr. MRL

Looks like BNSF auctioned all those units that now show LTEX lettering (plus 2472 and many more) back in June:

http://auctions.bnsf.com/cgi-bin/auction.exe/placebid?a=2810

The GP30's and 35's still listed as BNSF were not included, except for 2400.

I'm sure there's a good reason and all, but its a little humoring to see DPU on a light power move...

MrMRL Wrote:
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> And for the number crunchers out there, here are
> the units involved...
>
> Train: D-BARCSX1-09M (Lite Units Move from
> Barstow, CA to CSX RR @ Chicago, IL)
>
> BNSF 4311
> BNSF 7794
> LTEX 2414
> LTEX 2561
> LTEX 2516
> LTEX 2443
> LTEX 2441
> LTEX 2409
> LTEX 2466
> LTEX 2574
> LTEX 2430
> LTEX 2573
> LTEX 2558
> LTEX 2545
> LTEX 2530
> LTEX 2578
> LTEX 2563
> LTEX 2580
> LTEX 2519
> LTEX 2446
> LTEX 2535
> LTEX 2465
> LTEX 2470
> LTEX 2442
> BNSF 4328
> BNSF 7325
>
>
> Mr. MRL

I'm sure this has passed through Flagstaff already, however can anyone share a current location of this train? Thanks.

Al Seever
Phoenix, AZ

D BARCSX1 09: Symbol Desc?

Lite Units Move from Barstow, CA to CSX RR @ Chicago, IL

Curr. Location: EAST HOLBROOK at 05:53 MT Direction: Eastbound
Prev Location: EAST HOLBROOK at 05:53 MT Dist. Next: 9.7 Miles
Next Location: ARNTZ et 06:04 MT Tk Speed: 60 mph
333 Stn Name: Holbrook, AZ 11/11/2012 Tk Name: M1
0616 003126
Train Details: 0 Loads 0 Empties 0 Ttl Cars
994 Feet

Subdivision: Gallup Crew Route: GALLUP
Status Time: A00:00 (Ahead) Crew DOL at: 16:10 MT

Conductor: DM COLE Time-Up: 16:10M 11/11 ( 10:03 )
Engineer: TG TOWNSEND Time-Up: 16:10M 11/11 ( 10:03 )
_________________ ____________ ___________________ _________________________
Locomotives: 14 Units 38800 HorsePower HPT n/a
UNIT IDENT UNIT TYPE PWR DIR Condition Code and Description
BNSF 4311 C44-9W 4400 E 9 - Minor Defect Requiring Repair
BNSF 7794 ES44DC 4400 E 0 - No Defects Reported
LTEX 2414 N/A 2500 E N/A
LTEX 2561 N/A 2500 E N/A
LTEX 2516 N/A 2500 E N/A
LTEX 2443 N/A 2500 W N/A
LTEX 2441 N/A 2500 E N/A
LTEX 2409 N/A 2500 E N/A
LTEX 2466 N/A 2500 E N/A
LTEX 2574 N/A 2500 E N/A
LTEX 2430 N/A 2500 E N/A
LTEX 2573 N/A 2500 W N/A
LTEX 2558 N/A 2500 W N/A
LTEX 2445 N/A 2500 W N/A

bnsf70mac Wrote:
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> Locomotives: 14 Units 38800 HorsePower HPT n/a
> UNIT IDENT UNIT TYPE PWR DIR Condition Code and
> Description
> BNSF 4311 C44-9W 4400 E 9 - Minor Defect
> Requiring Repair
> BNSF 7794 ES44DC 4400 E 0 - No Defects
> Reported
> LTEX 2414 N/A 2500 E N/A
> LTEX 2561 N/A 2500 E N/A
> LTEX 2516 N/A 2500 E N/A
> LTEX 2443 N/A 2500 W N/A
> LTEX 2441 N/A 2500 E N/A
> LTEX 2409 N/A 2500 E N/A
> LTEX 2466 N/A 2500 E N/A
> LTEX 2574 N/A 2500 E N/A
> LTEX 2430 N/A 2500 E N/A
> LTEX 2573 N/A 2500 W N/A
> LTEX 2558 N/A 2500 W N/A
> LTEX 2445 N/A 2500 W N/A

So, did BNSF decide the DPU was not such a great idea?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/11/12 07:45 by ts1457.

What's inside a GP30U or a GP35U? Turbo 16-567 or were they rebuilt with 645 PA's and Roots?

filmteknik Wrote:

> What's inside a GP30U or a GP35U? Turbo 16-567 or
> were they rebuilt with 645 PA's and Roots?

The locomotive folio claims they have turbocharged 16-645E3 prime movers, D32E main generators, and D77 traction motors. The nightmarish electrical cabinet was also simplified. Following rebuild, the two types were identical internally, rated at 2500hp.

ts1457 Wrote:
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> So, did BNSF decide the DPU was not such a great
> idea?

It is still DP'd, just the train tracking feature that was copied and pasted from has a limit of how many locomotives it'll show.

Never thought much about it but the HP would have had to be limited as 2500 is about all you'll get
out of a D32 generator.