Western Railroad Discussion > The proliferaton of new BNSF symbols

Seems there's lots of symbols out there now with newer station names. These guys ran last May. Who can tell us what they are:

U-AWAANA4A Not a clue here!
M-MINBIG4A Minot to somewhere
M-HVRRSS4A Havre to somewhere
M-RYMDND4A Somewhere to Dore, ND
M-TROPAS4A Somewhere to Pasco
U-DNDDOU0T Dore, ND to somewhere

Not quite like "The Cannonball," or the "Blue Streak Merchandise," eh what?

RYM=Rudyard, MN
TRO=Troy, ID

The rest are newer than my Altamont Press #18 TT.

DaveL

DaveL Wrote:
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> RYM=Rudyard, MN
> TRO=Troy, ID
>
> The rest are newer than my Altamont Press #18 TT.
>
> DaveL

Thanks, Dave. Do you mean Rudyard, MT by any chance? A place in the middle of nowhere, west of Havre.

sums007 Wrote:
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> DaveL Wrote:
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> > RYM=Rudyard, MN
> > TRO=Troy, ID
> >
> > The rest are newer than my Altamont Press #18
> TT.
> >
> > DaveL
>
> Thanks, Dave. Do you mean Rudyard, MT by any
> chance? A place in the middle of nowhere, west of
> Havre.

Yes, that would be Rudyard, MT. Also, Troy, ID has not had rail service for years, so it can't be that location. I think he means Troy, Montana, west of Libby.

Are you sure the Troy-Pasco train was a M train? all that Troy yard is used for is staging work train equipment and sometimes stored cars. We do see U Troy trains often enough full of MOW equipment.

Pacific5th Wrote:
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> Are you sure the Troy-Pasco train was a M train?
> all that Troy yard is used for is staging work
> train equipment and sometimes stored cars. We do
> see U Troy trains often enough full of MOW
> equipment.

Here's another one for someone:

the U-TMJKCJ0T ran 3X in the last week of May. TMJ is the mystery to me.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/28/14 10:57 by sums007.

Here are a few I can dig up...

ANA - Anacachos, TX
AWA - Arco, WA
BIG - Big Sandy, MT
RSS - Ross, ND
RYM - Rudyrad, MT
TRO - Troy, MT

Mr. MRL

Unknown symbols but I am guessing one of them is a Havre to Whitefish which started several months ago.

MrMRL Wrote:
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> Here are a few I can dig up...
>
> ANA - Anacachos, TX
> AWA - Arco, WA
> BIG - Big Sandy, MT
> RSS - Ross, ND
> RYM - Rudyrad, MT
> TRO - Troy, MT
>
> Mr. MRL

Thanks a lot, MRL!


ANA: Anacachos, TX. I lived in Texas for 10 years until recently, and never heard of this place, but Texas IS a big state! On Bing maps, it seems to be on a branch west of Uvalde on the UP Del Rio Sub. Big frac area, if I'm not mistaken.

IIRC, Arco is on the BNSF Bellingham Sub, no?

yes arco is near ferndale, WA, north of bellingham, on the bellingham sub.

now to the original poster -- all of your symbols have a "4" after them. im not a rail but i have spent a few years looking at BNSF symbols...my strong impression is that a suffix "4" is for an unscheduled train...ie something only "As needed" and could be a complete one-off. so these are not regular symbols. im happy if anyone wants to correct me on this.

bbcc Wrote:
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> yes arco is near ferndale, WA, north of
> bellingham, on the bellingham sub.
>
> now to the original poster -- all of your symbols
> have a "4" after them. im not a rail but i have
> spent a few years looking at BNSF symbols...my
> strong impression is that a suffix "4" is for an
> unscheduled train...ie something only "As needed"
> and could be a complete one-off. so these are not
> regular symbols. im happy if anyone wants to
> correct me on this.


I believe in this case "4" is designating a Hazmat or "Key" train.

Mr. MRL

MrMRL Wrote:
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> I believe in this case "4" is designating a Hazmat or "Key" train.

If that is the case, those U-trains would be unit oil trains.

Paul Birkholz
Sheridan, WY

bbcc Wrote:
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>
> now to the original poster -- all of your symbols
> have a "4" after them. im not a rail but i have
> spent a few years looking at BNSF symbols...my
> strong impression is that a suffix "4" is for an
> unscheduled train...ie something only "As needed"
> and could be a complete one-off. so these are not
> regular symbols. im happy if anyone wants to
> correct me on this.

Bingo.

mtnwestrail Wrote:
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> MrMRL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I believe in this case "4" is designating a
> Hazmat or "Key" train.
>
> If that is the case, those U-trains would be unit
> oil trains.

The U's are unit oil trains, the M's are manifest trains. The Troy, MT to Pasco has to be a one time or limited run train as Troy, MT doesn't originate enough traffic to justify a local more than once a month or so, much less fill a train, ever. Probably something got terminated there or was shuttled out from White fish ( long way to shuttle) and a new symbol started. Probably wont see it again, or at least not very often

Thanks everyone for the input. Still looking to find out where the U-AWAANA ends up, as well as where the U-AWADOU.

sums007 Wrote:
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> Thanks everyone for the input. Still looking to
> find out where the U-AWAANA ends up, as well as
> where the U-AWADOU.

DOU = Douglas, WY

sums007 Wrote:
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> Thanks everyone for the input. Still looking to
> find out where the U-AWAANA ends up, as well as
> where the U-AWADOU.

ANA is Anacachos, TX per Mr. MRL. See below.
mapboy

>Here are a few I can dig up...
>
>ANA - Anacachos, TX
>AWA - Arco, WA
>BIG - Big Sandy, MT
>RSS - Ross, ND
>RYM - Rudyrad, MT
>TRO - Troy, MT
>
>Mr. MRL

Many thanks, again.

And here's some new ones that ran last month, all U trains:

CBICPP 0T [2 of them]
BERFEP 0T[6]
CMICXR [2]
PLUNCC 0T [8]
MBAAVN 5B
VAWADW 5B