Western Railroad Discussion > UP paint schemes

Today in Berea, OH two UP units led an eb oil train. Both of these units have some age - more than 10 years old. I noticed the shading of the color. The lead unit is a different yellow than the 2nd unit. Is it faded? Or did UP slightly change their yellow color? Or??

Thank you.

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Noticed that too. Seams to me the C60ACs and the C4460ACs are the only ones that have the Lighter shade



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UP would never change from Armour Yellow!!!

Any paint that has red in its mix (orange, yellow, pink, maroon, etc.) will fade in the sun over time. The quality and the brand of paint may make a difference over time too.


Marty Bernard



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Probably the difference between REAL paint and
environmentally friendly paint!!

Mike

2720 Wrote:
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> Probably the difference between REAL paint and
> environmentally friendly paint!!
>
> Mike


So Mike you are saying some UP locomotives are repainted in stated like California where they care about people's lungs and others in states like Nebraska where they don't care? Makes sense.

Marty Bernard

It's kind of along the same lines as BNSF's aging SD70MACs and other "Heritage II" painted power.. some were painted by a different contractor and therefore used different brand, and thereby quality, paint. An example that comes to mind is the early run on MACs painted by VMV seem to have lasted longer than the MACs painted elsewhere.

On another note, sweet shot! Love that AC6000

I don't want to speak for anyone, but I believe he was just pointing out the fact that certain paints, like so many other products that have been reformulated to be environmentally friendly don't work nearly as well as as the products they replaced. I guess that is the price of progress, but sometimes I have to wonder if the cure isn't worse than the affliction.

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MartyBernard Wrote:
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> 2720 Wrote:
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> > Probably the difference between REAL paint and
> > environmentally friendly paint!!
> >
> > Mike
>
>
> So Mike you are saying some UP locomotives are
> repainted in stated like California where they
> care about people's lungs and others in states
> like Nebraska where they don't care? Makes
> sense.
>
> Marty Bernard

I don't think UP has a paint booth in California. Considering that they don't do any heavy maintenance out here that's not surprising.

The "afflictions" are cancer, COPD, asthma, bronchitis, systemic toxicity and early death. Fading paint sucks big time. But I hate the first list worse. As well as any argument that says removing toxins is pointless, or nothing more that a frivolous or politicized shell game. It may be imperfect and even corrupt or foolish at times. I miss good lacquers, sprayable paints with fragrant VOCs, and stable reds, oranges and yellows as much as anyone. But lung death is worse.

~ BZ

junctiontower Wrote:
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> I don't want to speak for anyone, but I believe he
> was just pointing out the fact that certain
> paints, like so many other products that have been
> reformulated to be environmentally friendly don't
> work nearly as well as as the products they
> replaced. I guess that is the price of progress,
> but sometimes I have to wonder if the cure isn't
> worse than the affliction.
>
> Posted from Android

Thank You junctiontower!

I have used both kinds of paints and gotten differing results,
also there is one EMD and one GE in the photo, painted at two
different locations! Using In Stock paint supplies.

Mike

Hey Marty, where are they painting power in Nebraska? Paint booth at North Platte was shut down YEARS ago. Just curious, don't think they are. Maybe the good people of Nebraska do care about air quality.
kwo



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Last time I checked, the only paint booth on the UP that does locomotives is at North Little Rock.
Considering that NLR is the only heavy maintenance shop on the UP. It makes sense.

Needless to say, some of the AC4460's, such as UP 7078, were originally painted by GE in a slightly different color than the rest of the fleet. Nothing faded about it.

Did anyone consider that the locos were probably painted in a paint booth to control emissions? Ranting and raving about air pollution is silly if there was no pollution caused.

Norm

Norman Orfall
Helendale, CA
TIOGA PASS, a private railcar

The "lemon flavour" seems to be restricted to that one batch of UP 7000-class units.

Bill Miller
Galt, ON

Notch16 Wrote:
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> The "afflictions" are cancer, COPD, asthma,
> bronchitis, systemic toxicity and early death.
> Fading paint sucks big time. But I hate the first
> list worse. As well as any argument that says
> removing toxins is pointless, or nothing more that
> a frivolous or politicized shell game. It may be
> imperfect and even corrupt or foolish at times. I
> miss good lacquers, sprayable paints with fragrant
> VOCs, and stable reds, oranges and yellows as much
> as anyone. But lung death is worse.
>
> ~ BZ


Proper personal protection gear can take care of all of that.

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