Western Railroad Discussion > Panhandle Detours

I'll take the chance of being flamed to death and ask where traffic is running now. This does not equal a lack of sympathy for the crews. I offer my condolences to the families and coworkers involved.

Main 2 was opened at 07:30, Main 1 opening later this afternoon.

Z train traffic was rerouted via Ft. Worth and OKC and also over the UP from Vaughn to Hutchinson. The balance of the remaining traffic was staged across the system.

Milw_E70 Wrote:
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> Main 2 was opened at 07:30, Main 1 opening later
> this afternoon.
>
> Z train traffic was rerouted via Ft. Worth and OKC
> and also over the UP from Vaughn to Hutchinson.
> The balance of the remaining traffic was staged
> across the system.

Awesome info
Are they making a reverse move at Vaughn, or is there a different connecting traffic that google earth hasnt updated on their site?

Main Two Track was returned to service at 07:30 a.m. Central time on Thursday June 30th, 2016. The estimated time for opening for Main One Track is Thursday, June 30th, 2016 at 12:00 p.m. Central Time.

 

There is a delicate balance here that most people on this site are respecting, and I congratulate them for that. The balance is that there was a terrible loss of life here that has significant impacts on all of us…even those who did not know the crew or work in railroading. It was sickening to look at the aftermath of the wreck, and I am at a point where I personally just can’t look at another picture. But, there is also an industry that needs to keep moving, and the broader impacts of this tragedy need to be understood. So, asking information is not a bad thing. Working in aviation safety has taught me that most people’s interest in the facts related to a tragedy are not morbid curiosity, but a genuine part of the process to understand a terrible and senseless loss of life. There are extremes, such as those who are not concerned about the loss of life, just as there are those who are deeply and profoundly hurt by the loss of colleagues and friends and facts are meaningless to them at this time. Most of the people here are respectful of all aspects of this, including the large majority of members who do not post to the forums and are not heard. So, asking a question should be taken as that…a request for information. Assuming some sort of “unspoken motivation” for a question is often incorrect, and unwarranted…especially in an internet forum where interpretations can run wild. 
 

Well said, Detector.

Tom Y

i am not a railroad worker i am a BNSF fan  with lots of friends who work for them i prayed for the familys too thanks

Agreed.  Well said!

The dispatcher that set up this high speed meet could have taken a few seconds to call the eastbound and suggested to them to save on fuel because they will be held at Panhandle to meet a westbound. No, looks like he let him run full track speed into the advance approach, approach, and stop signal when he could see they would be delayed at Panhandle. Good dispatching can save fuel and lives.

PlyWoody Wrote:
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> The dispatcher that set up this high speed meet
> could have taken a few seconds to call the
> eastbound and suggested to them to save on fuel
> because they will be held at Panhandle to meet a
> westbound. No, looks like he let him run full
> track speed into the advance approach, approach,
> and stop signal when he could see they would be
> delayed at Panhandle. Good dispatching can save
> fuel and lives.

I'm not sure if you're a railroader or just a railfan, but that is a STUPID thing to write. Why don't you let the BNSF and NTSB conduct and finish their investigations before you go pointing fingers and finding your own armchair 'causes'. What evidence do you posess that states the DS did ANYTHING wrong? I'd wager to guess absolutely nothing. Until the proper authorities conduct and finish their investigations, perhaps you would do well to keep your hands away from the keyboard about this subject. 

-Dalton 
 

CP_M260 Wrote: > ... I'm not sure if you're a railroader or just a railfan, but......
NO railroader would have uttered such fecal trash, and I seriously doubt any railfan that knows how to spell IQ would spew such patent garbage either.
Unbelievable...

Lance/199



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/30/16 20:15 by santafe199.

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PlyWoody Wrote:
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> If the two crews had been given train numbers, and
> they talked to each other, their may be alive
> today.  I worked as Supervisor Train Operations.
> Been there, done that too.
 

Apparently he was supervisor of train operations at Lionel. 


darkcloud Wrote:
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>  http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1
> ,4062702,4063743#msg-4063743
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> PlyWoody Wrote:
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> > If the two crews had been given train numbers,
> and
> > they talked to each other, their may be alive
> > today.  I worked as Supervisor Train
> Operations.
> > Been there, done that too.
>  

Dear Ply,

​Apparently the dispatchers you have been around have done little more than run a train around a Christmas tree.  Your statement is ridiculous. 

Signed,

​A career dispatcher who has worked some of the busiest routes in the country.


PlyWoody Wrote:
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> The dispatcher that set up this high speed meet
> could have taken a few seconds to call the
> eastbound and suggested to them to save on fuel
> because they will be held at Panhandle to meet a
> westbound. No, looks like he let him run full
> track speed into the advance approach, approach,
> and stop signal when he could see they would be
> delayed at Panhandle. Good dispatching can save
> fuel and lives.

PlyWoody Wrote:
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> The dispatcher that set up this high speed meet
> could have taken a few seconds to call the
> eastbound and suggested to them to save on fuel
> because they will be held at Panhandle to meet a
> westbound. No, looks like he let him run full
> track speed into the advance approach, approach,
> and stop signal when he could see they would be
> delayed at Panhandle. Good dispatching can save
> fuel and lives.

I rarely participate in these types of threads but, your post has to be one of the most uneducated posts I have ever seen on TO!   You truly have no clue.

I also have had plenty of experience as a Class 1 railroad dispatcher and can definitely say, this really is one of the most ridiculous replies that I have ever seen on TO's.   I'll just leave it at that....

PlyWoody Wrote:
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> The dispatcher that set up this high speed meet
> could have taken a few seconds to call the
> eastbound and suggested to them to save on fuel
> because they will be held at Panhandle to meet a
> westbound. No, looks like he let him run full
> track speed into the advance approach, approach,
> and stop signal when he could see they would be
> delayed at Panhandle. Good dispatching can save
> fuel and lives.

sp8192 Wrote:
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> I also have had plenty of experience as a Class 1
> railroad dispatcher and can definitely say, this
> really is one of the most ridiculous replies that
> I have ever seen on TO's.   I'll just leave it at
> that....


Roger that.

TAW