Western Railroad Discussion > Tejon Pass alternate route

Having some fun looking at a possible route over Tejon Pass like ATSF and others have explored. The east approach is straight forward, but the north approach is a big question. Most proposals use the Grapevine in one way or another, but that makes for a short, straight and very steep route. I looked at a route northeast from Castac lake and passing under a low divide into the Bear Trap Canyon. I mapped out a straight 2% grade for fun, but a 1.5% would be workable by going further up the canyon before turning back. Seems that route offers more potenial for easy grades than the Grapevine.

Ted Curphey
Ontario, OR

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Cool. Of course if it is anywhere near Tejon Ranch the answer is no way

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There is an excellent history of the Tejon route on calrailnews.net.
JB - Omaha

Also in John Signor's "Tehachapi'
The proposed Calif. HSR system is looking at modern high speed routes. Also, BNSF and the state just paid for extending sidings into double track to increase velocity over the existing route...

Bill Deaver
Tehachapi, CA

Always a fun topic to imagine.   What are the steepest grades of the Grapevine?    If some of those could be leveled out a little, I always thought a track down the center of the 5 would suck more riders to trains than any other way.

Fizzboy7 Wrote:
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> Always a fun topic to imagine.   What are the
> steepest grades of the Grapevine?    If some of
> those could be leveled out a little, I always
> thought a track down the center of the 5 would
> suck more riders to trains than any other way.

Like CPRR said, it would never happen. Tejon Ranch would never allow it.