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Date: 12/01/16 16:59
Mt. Hood RR propane cars gone
Author: ORNHOO

I took a drive up to Parkdale yesterday and couldn't find a stored tank car anywhere. Cold winter? Or just moved to Sonoma county?



Date: 12/01/16 18:58
Re: Mt. Hood RR propane cars gone
Author: funnelfan

This is the time of year that LPG is in high demand. Shortlines have been making money by storing LPG cars during the spring and summer when LPG demand is low, then when demand picks up during the fall and winter those cars are distributed to customers. It evens out the production for producers and better handles the fluctuating demands of customers. It's really a win-win for all parties involved.

Ted Curphey
Ontario, OR



Date: 12/01/16 19:02
Re: Mt. Hood RR propane cars gone
Author: JDLX

There was a report on some board or another about the cars being moved off the property back in mid-summer, only a month or so after they arrived.  I don't know if MH resumed passenger operations to Parkdale or not after they left, I remember there being a lot of time left in the tourist season at the time.

Jeff Moore
Elko, NV



Date: 12/01/16 22:33
Re: Mt. Hood RR propane cars gone
Author: asheldrake

rumor has it that MHRR returns to Parkdale in 2017...........awaiting confirmation.  



Date: 12/02/16 06:19
Re: Mt. Hood RR propane cars gone
Author: Lackawanna484

A propane pipeline into North Dakota was converted to outbound crude in 2013. That alone drove a big increase in rail car demand.

Grain dealers are extensive users of propane for drying.

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Date: 12/02/16 07:26
Re: Mt. Hood RR propane cars gone
Author: callum_out

And the grain dealer thing is a total crapshoot as the weather prior to harvest has a huge effect on the
amount of drying required.

Out



Date: 12/02/16 08:18
Re: Mt. Hood RR propane cars gone
Author: leonz

They could certainly convert the grain driers to use a
coal stoker furnace too and use more western coal that way.

They would save a ton of money and the CO-OP owner members
will make more money per bushel as it would take less fuel and effort
to dry the grain using a coal fired hot water grain drying system using
an hot water to air heat exchanger to make enough heat to dry grain.   



Date: 12/02/16 08:45
Re: Mt. Hood RR propane cars gone
Author: howeld

leonz Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> They could certainly convert the grain driers to
> use a
> coal stoker furnace too and use more western coal
> that way.
>
> They would save a ton of money and the CO-OP owner
> members
> will make more money per bushel as it would take
> less fuel and effort
> to dry the grain using a coal fired hot water
> grain drying system using
> an hot water to air heat exchanger to make enough
> heat to dry grain.   

Don't make me laugh. Wouldn't even be in the same ballpark cost wise. There is no way converting the hot air from coal fire to hot water back to hot air to dry grain is better than just creating hot air with propane. There would be major heat loss at each transfer.
Not even going to get into the costs of single car coal transport, storage, stoker problems, ash disposal, cost to maintain boiler.

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Date: 12/02/16 16:15
Re: Mt. Hood RR propane cars gone
Author: leonz

Hot water heat exchange is an option that is used in some cases.
Underfed coal stokers in hot air furnaces create as much or more
heat than propane burners.



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