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Date: 02/27/17 04:43
BNSF/LTEX GP30's for GP39-3 Rebuild Program
Author: Rainier_Rails

Couple of questions:

1) Does anybody have a list of the nee-AT&SF GP30's that BNSF recently bought back from Larry's Truck & Electric (LTEX) for their GP39-3 rebuild program?

2) If so, have any of the new GP39-3 #25xx/#26xx-series numbers been assigned to these GP30's?  I know that for at least a few of the nee-AT&SF GP35's that were rebuilt, the new #25xx/#26xx-series numbers were applied before the actual rebuilds using GN reporting marks.

3) Does anybody have a list of the heritages for GP39-3's #2585-#2589 and #2591-#2593?  I have the heritage for #2590, which is a nee-AT&SF GP30, specifically ex-BNSF GP30u #2432, exx-AT&SF #2732, exxx-GP30 #3232, nee-#1232.

Both the #2590 and #2591 (which is also a rebuilt GP30) are currently sitting in storage in Balmer Yard here in Seattle, between the roundhouse and the fueling racks, along with GP38X #2171 (ex-BN, exx-Conrail GP38 #7845, nee-PC), GN-stenciled SW1200 #3534 (ex-BNSF, exx-BN #193, nee-NP #134), GN-stenciled SD9 #1732 (ex-BNSF, exx-#6132, exxx-BN #6236, exxxx-C&S, nee-#841), and GP38u #2236 (ex-AT&SF #2346, nee-GP38 #3546).  Stored nearby are GN-stenciled SD9's #1729 (ex-BNSF, exx-#6110, exxx-BN, nee-GN #583) and #1730 (ex-BNSF, exx-#6125, exxx-BN, nee-GN #598).

Oh, and if anyone is using RR Picture Archives to check the histories of these GP39-3's, there are currently several errors.  The confusion stems from the fact that BNSF used the #25xx/#26xx-series, previously occupied by the now mostly retired/stored or rebuilt nee-AT&SF GP35's for the GP39-3's, a number of which are these ex-GP35's, but upon rebuild the engines were given new numbers in the same range.



Date: 02/27/17 13:19
Re: BNSF/LTEX GP30's for GP39-3 Rebuild Program
Author: erikalco251

I think one of the GP30s that LTEX got some years ago is x TP&W 700



Date: 02/27/17 19:41
Re: BNSF/LTEX GP30's for GP39-3 Rebuild Program
Author: Rainier_Rails

I answered one of my questions:

This was a trade between BNSF and LTEX: GP38's (26) for GP30's (24).

GP38's: #2160, #2161, #2162, #2164, #2166, #2167, #2168, #2171, #2177, #2189, #2190, #2192, #2195, #2199, #2201, #2209, #2214, #2215, #2216, #2217, #2219, #2221, #2224, #2231, #2234, and #2248.  10 of these are ex-Conrail, nee-PC GP38X's (up through #2189), including the #2171 which I reported as being stored in Balmer Yard.  The other 16 (#2190 and above) are nee-AT&SF GP38u's.  Interestingly, the other GP38 which I reported as stored in Balmer Yard, nee-AT&SF GP38u #2236, is not among those being traded to LTEX.

Nee-AT&SF GP30u's: #2403, #2406, #2407, #2416, #2417, #2419, #2423, #2424, #2429, #2431, #2440, #2447, #2450, #2453, #2455, #2461, #2462, #2466, #2469, #2471, #2472, #2474, #2475, and #2477.

erikalco251 Wrote:
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> I think one of the GP30s that LTEX got some years ago is x TP&W 700

Thanks, Erik!

TP&W #700 is not among those reacquired from LTEX.  It became AT&SF #3385, then was rebuilt in July 1984 as GP30u #2785 (2nd), to BNSF #2458, to LTEX.

 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/27/17 19:43 by Rainier_Rails.



Date: 02/27/17 21:49
Re: BNSF/LTEX GP30's for GP39-3 Rebuild Program
Author: MP555

Rainier_Rails Wrote:
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> 2) If so, have any of the new GP39-3
> #25xx/#26xx-series numbers been assigned to these
> GP30's?

This is what BNSF shows so far:
LTEX 2424 to BNSF 2529 (GP39-3)
LTEX 2450 to BNSF 2528 (GP39-3)
LTEX 2417 to BNSF 2527 (GP39-3)
LTEX 2477 to BNSF 2526 (GP39-3)

> 3) Does anybody have a list of the heritages for
> GP39-3's #2585-#2589 and #2591-#2593? 

BNSF 2585 from BNSF 2433 (GP30); rebuilt by RELCO
BNSF 2586 from BNSF 2460 (GP30); rebuilt by NRE
BNSF 2587 from BNSF 2459 (GP30); rebuilt by RELCO
BNSF 2588 from BNSF 2400 (GP30); rebuilt by RELCO
BNSF 2589 from BNSF 2401 (GP30); rebuilt by RELCO

BNSF 2591 from BNSF 2412 (GP30); rebuilt by RELCO
BNSF 2592 from BNSF 2517 (GP30); rebuilt by RELCO
BNSF 2593 from GN 2560 (GP35); rebuilt by RELCO

> I have the
> heritage for #2590, which is a nee-AT&SF GP30,
> specifically ex-BNSF GP30u #2432, exx-AT&SF #2732,
> exxx-GP30 #3232, nee-#1232.

Correct.



Date: 02/28/17 00:04
Re: BNSF/LTEX GP30's for GP39-3 Rebuild Program
Author: Rainier_Rails

Thanks, MP555!  Much appreciated!

May I inquire as to where this info is available?  LocoNotes Yahoo group?  (I know it's not on Charles Biel's Trainpix website or the Diesel Shop.)



Date: 02/28/17 13:37
Re: BNSF/LTEX GP30's for GP39-3 Rebuild Program
Author: MP555

Rainier_Rails Wrote:
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> May I inquire as to where this info is
> available?  LocoNotes Yahoo group?

Well, the info is not really available. But LocoNotes is a good place to find it when it shows up!



Date: 02/28/17 19:45
Re: BNSF/LTEX GP30's for GP39-3 Rebuild Program
Author: WLE2679

Did the locomotives already move from LTEX?



Date: 02/28/17 21:50
Re: BNSF/LTEX GP30's for GP39-3 Rebuild Program
Author: MP555

WLE2679 Wrote:
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> Did the locomotives already move from LTEX?

I dont think all of them have.  These COULD be yet to ship:
2407
2423
2453
2455
2461
2469



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