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Date: 05/10/04 17:11
Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: zephyrus

Anyone know how many big roundhouses (say 5 stalls or more, 100' deep) and/or turntables over 100' long survive in North America?

WHo owns them, what condition are they currently in. Can include turntables that have been lifted but still survive as well.

In California/Nevada, I know of a couple:

Redondo turntable - LA, ex-ATSF now Amtrak, 120' (roundhouse demolished 2000)

Stockton turntable - ex-WP now UP, 110'

Bayshore Roundhouse - South SF, ex-SP now UP, turntable gone? building in bad shape, 12 stalls?

Oroville turntable - Virginia City, NV, ex-WP now owned by FRRS, 110', stored out of ground


Can anyone add to the list?

Thanks.

Eugene




Date: 05/10/04 17:19
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: CNW6500

Here knock yourself out. Not sure how many of these are still standing, but these are some of the ones that I have came across while railfanning from space.

Arizona

Tucson, AZ – EP&SW
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=4&s=8&x=10041&y=71260&z=12&w=2



Connecticut

Danbury – NH
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3149&y=22919&z=18&w=2


New London – CV
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3715&y=22915&z=18&w=2


Iowa

Estherville, Iowa - CNW
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=1754&y=24036&z=15&w=2

Mason City, Iowa - MILW
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2419&y=23882&z=15&w=2

Mason City, Iowa – CNW
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2413&y=23897&z=15&w=2

Manly, Iowa - CRIP
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2416&y=23969&z=15&w=2

Mason City, Iowa – MSTL
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2420&y=23891&z=15&w=2

Hawarden, Iowa - CNW
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3525&y=23814&z=14&w=2

Sioux City, Iowa – GN
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3579&y=23551&z=14&w=2

Sioux City, Iowa – IC & CNW
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3571&y=23546&z=14&w=2

Sioux City, Iowa – SCT
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3573&y=23537&z=14&w=2

Sioux City, Iowa – Milw
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3536&y=23557&z=14&w=2

Council Bluffs, Iowa – CNW
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=1301&y=22862&z=15&w=2

Council Bluffs, Iowa – IC
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=1300&y=22866&z=15&w=2

Council Bluffs, Iowa – Milw
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=1306&y=22846&z=15&w=2

Council Bluffs, Iowa – CRIP
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=1312&y=22842&z=15&w=2

Council Bluffs, Iowa – WAB
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=1307&y=22843&z=15&w=2

Cherokee, Iowa – IC
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=1453&y=23678&z=15&w=2

Carroll, Iowa – CNW
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=1724&y=23294&z=15&w=2

Creston, Iowa – CB&Q
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=1929&y=22730&z=15&w=2

Fort Dodge, Iowa – IC
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2011&y=23529&z=15&w=2

Fort Dodge, Iowa – FtD&DMS
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2024&y=23524&z=15&w=2

Boone, Iowa – CNW
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2142&y=23284&z=15&w=2

Clarion, Iowa – CGW
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2196&y=23654&z=15&w=2

Des Moines, Iowa – DMU
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2235&y=23018&z=15&w=2

Des Moines, Iowa – CBQ
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2237&y=23016&z=15&w=2

Des Moines, Iowa – M&StL
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2239&y=23017&z=15&w=2

Des Moines, Iowa – CGW
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2236&y=23009&z=15&w=2

Des Moines, Iowa – CRIP
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2261&y=23021&z=15&w=2

Des Moines, Iowa – CNW
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2256&y=23038&z=15&w=2

Des Moines, Iowa – DCI
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2256&y=23048&z=15&w=2

Ottumwa, Iowa – MILW
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2732&y=22705&z=15&w=2

Ottumwa, Iowa – CRIP
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2750&y=22699&z=15&w=2

Marshalltown, Iowa – M&StL
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2537&y=23271&z=15&w=2

Iowa Falls, Iowa – M&StL
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2394&y=23541&z=15&w=2

Charles City, Iowa – CCW
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2637&y=23844&z=15&w=2

Waterloo, Iowa – IC
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2774&y=23530&z=15&w=2

Oelwein, Iowa – CGW
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2939&y=23630&z=15&w=2

Cedar Rapids, Iowa – CNW
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3050&y=23245&z=15&w=2

Burlington, Iowa – CBQ
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3301&y=22590&z=15&w=2

Davenport, Iowa – Milw/Soo/I&M/ICE
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3486&y=22977&z=15&w=2

Dubuque, Iowa – Milw
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3460&y=23547&z=15&w=2

Dubuque, Iowa - CBQ
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3467&y=23535&z=15&w=2

Marquette, Iowa – Milw
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3236&y=23836&z=15&w=2

Perry, Iowa - Milw
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2033&y=23165&z=15&w=2







California.

Bakersfield, CA - ATSF
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=1574&y=19579&z=11&w=2

Bakersfield, CA – SP
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=1598&y=19583&z=11&w=2

Barstow, CA – ATSF
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2466&y=19305&z=11&w=2

Colton, CA – SP
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2353&y=18845&z=11&w=2

W. Colton, CA – SP
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2328&y=18847&z=11&w=2

Los Angeles, - SP Taylor
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=1928&y=18869&z=11&w=2

Los Angeles, - SP Redondo Jct.
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=1934&y=18824&z=11&w=2

Los Angeles, CA – Hobart
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=1948&y=18819&z=11&w=2

San Luis Obispo – SP
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3567&y=19527&z=10&w=2




San Jose - SP
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2983&y=20664&z=10&w=2

San Bernardino, CA – ATSF
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2356&y=18869&z=11&w=2


Bayshore, CA = SP
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2761&y=20864&z=10&w=2

Jamestown, CA – SERA
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3635&y=21017&z=10&w=2


Oroville, CA
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3122&y=21856&z=10&w=2

Stockton, CA – WP
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3259&y=20999&z=10&w=2

Stockton, CA - CCT
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3261&y=21022&z=10&w=2

Stockton, CA – ST&E
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3270&y=21023&z=10&w=2




Ohio

Lima. OH – B&O
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3723&y=22573&z=16&w=2

Lima, OH – NKP
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3722&y=22560&z=16&w=2

Lima, OH - Lima Loco Works
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3721&y=22557&z=16&w=2


Marion, OH - Erie
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=1590&y=22477&z=17&w=2

Springfield, OH – DT&I
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=1317&y=22103&z=17&w=2

Oregon – SP
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3007&y=23373&z=10&w=2





Minnesota

St. Paul - MILW
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2481&y=24881&z=15&w=2

St. Paul –MT
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2403&y=24911&z=15&w=2

St. Paul – GN
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2401&y=24925&z=15&w=2


Oklahoma

Oklahoma City - SLSF
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3182&y=19623&z=14&w=2




Texas

Wichita Falls – MKT
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2730&y=18772&z=14&w=2

Gainesville – ATSF
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3361&y=18616&z=14&w=2

Childress – FW&D
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=1939&y=19050&z=14&w=2

Denison, TX – MKT
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3624&y=18696&z=14&w=2

Ft. Worth – FW&D
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3285&y=18124&z=14&w=2

Ft. Worth – MKT
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=4&s=9&x=6571&y=36219&z=14&w=2

Ft. Worth – MP
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=4&s=10&x=3264&y=18111&z=14&w=2


Cleburne, TX – ATSF
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3261&y=17905&z=14&w=2



Date: 05/10/04 17:46
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: MRSLIDES

Guadalajara, JAL, Mexico: Former NdeM roundhouse. Rebuilt 3 years ago and operated by General Electric Transportation Systems.

San Luis Potosi, SLP, Mexico: Former NdeM roundhouse. Operated by General Electric Transportation Systems.

EJ&E Gary, IN

B&LE Greenville, PA

JCB



Date: 05/10/04 18:12
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: BNSFhogger

Interbay Roundhouse in Seattle, WA. Roundhouse and turntable still used daily. Here is the Pacific Pride unit on the turntable in 1990. The roundhouse has had a facelift since this picture was taken.




Date: 05/10/04 18:18
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: Steamjocky

I have been told that the turntable at Stockton is out of service but I do not know from personal experience.

steamjocky



Date: 05/10/04 18:19
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: CyberFoamer

UP's Cheyenne Roundhouse and turnable looks to be in operation as well as still turning and housing steamers.

There are two turtables in Washington State that I know of. Interbay, Washington and Pasco, Washington, both have turntables, but I am not sure if they are over 100 ft. I would assume so, considering that the original owners GN and NP had very large steam engines, like the R-2 2-8-8-2s and Yellowstones.

Casey



Date: 05/10/04 18:58
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: MTMEngineer

CNW6500 posted an impressive list - he must have been waiting a long time for someone to ask this question!

The GN Minneapolis Jct Roundhouse and TT are gone. The TT is now installed at the former GN Jackson Street (St Paul) roundhouse and used daily by Minnesota Transportation Museum.

Milwaukee's St Paul (Pigs Eye) roundhouse and TT are used daily by General Electric's GETS locomotive servicing.

Also in daily use in St Paul is Minnesota Commercials roundhouse and TT, though it's a small TT - 90 feet, I think.

Milwaukees Wabasha, MN roundhouse is still standing, but no TT

Milwaukees Harlowton, Montana roundhouse is still standing, but no TT.



Date: 05/10/04 19:02
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: Nitehostler

The former ATSF roundhouse in Las Vegas, NM should still be there; no turntable or pit, but it has 30 or more stalls, I believe.



Date: 05/10/04 19:23
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: CNW6500

MTMEngineer Wrote:
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> CNW6500 posted an impressive list - he must have
> been waiting a long time for someone to ask this
> question!

Sorry to disappoint but, no I have not been waiting for someone to ask this question. Just trying to fill that niche in life that is always the collector of useless garbage until someone somewhere asks the question. Besides when one does not sleep and the reruns of Mayberry are the same as the channel 4 steps down, you can waste bandwidth pretty easy.



Date: 05/10/04 19:44
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: LCW

EJ&E at Joliet, IL



Date: 05/10/04 19:45
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: highgreengraphics

Evanston, WY has a complete turntable and 1/2 roundhouse, with an old powerhouse and most servicing facilities intact except no water tank. It was being used by a contract car shop, has been totally empty for a number of years. The turntable is a "bridge" type. Too bad this place is not by much population - would make a dandy museum. Pretty spooky to walk through in the evening. JLH



Date: 05/10/04 19:47
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: photobob

Here's Dunsmuirs. The roundhouse went years ago but the turntable is used still quite abit. The Railcam is located in the mallet shed seen behind the tunnel motor on the turntable.




Date: 05/10/04 20:03
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: truxtrax

No roundhouse, but UP still has a TT at Albina in Portland. Not to mention the RH and TT at Brooklyn Yd, home for SP4449, SP&S700, OWR&N(UP) 190, F40 231 and various other DLM goodies!

Butch,,,,here we go



Date: 05/10/04 20:19
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: Gabbyh1

Winslow, Az. 120' Santa Fe design. Only one working motor, but still working.



Date: 05/10/04 20:43
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: waybill

CNW6500 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Here knock yourself out. Not sure how many of
> these are still standing, but these are some of
> the ones that I have came across while railfanning
> from space.
> >
>
>
> Iowa
>
> Estherville, Iowa - CNW Gone, no TT.

>
> Mason City, Iowa - MILW No the IC&E facility. The original Milwaukee tt is gone. Per my sources, the current one was used at Shoreham. Removed from there, and shipped to Mason City by the Soo Line folks when they owned the Milwaukee lines in Mason City.> =2


> Mason City, Iowa – CNW Gone, filled in several years ago.
>
> Manly, Iowa - CRIP Am pretty sure this one also gone.
>
>
> Mason City, Iowa – MSTL Gone. So far as I know, the CNW stubbed their tracks
into this side of Mason City.
>
> Hawarden, Iowa - CNW Gone, CNW abandoned all lines into this burg many years ago.
>
> Sioux City, Iowa – SCT My understanding this facility razed along with their brick engine house.
>
> Carroll, Iowa – CNW Gone, no more branch line extending north from Maple River.
>
> Clarion, Iowa – CGW Gone.


> Des Moines, Iowa – DMU IIRC, this one disappeared with urban renewal. It was also used by the Milwaukee, but they have been long gone out of Des Moines. IIRC, the DMU might have passed out of corporate existence as well.
>
> Des Moines, Iowa – M&StL Also gone per my sources.

> Des Moines, Iowa – CGW Gone, Bell Yard largely ripped out, final abandonment by the UPRR.
>
> Des Moines, Iowa – CNW I presume you mean the original CNW Hull Avenue Yard. Also gone per what I have been told. Dunno, but also think the former RI tt is also history, and engines are turned on the wye.

> Des Moines, Iowa – DCI RR taken over by the CNW many years ago. Also gone per my sources.
>
> Ottumwa, Iowa – CRIP RI line through Ottumwa abandoned years ago. My guess the tt is also history.


> Iowa Falls, Iowa – M&StL This was not M&StL. The M&StL did not serve Iowa Falls. There was a RI tt, long gone.
>
> Charles City, Iowa – CCW Long gone. Been going up there for 30 or more years and cannot recall ever seeing one.
>
>
> Oelwein, Iowa – CGW Long, long gone. My guess is it disappeared shortly after the CGW dieselized. The remaining r/h is used by the Transco Car Repair firm, who also use the old CGW car shops.


> Cedar Rapids, Iowa – CNW Long gone. The CNW operated for years without one, finally installed a "tight" wye on the north side of Beverly Yard.
>
>
> Dubuque, Iowa – Milw Last time I was by "Shops Yard," no evidence of this tt.
>
> Dubuque, Iowa - CBQ Gone. The BN stopped serving Dubuque several years ago, switching now handled by the ICRR.
>
> Marquette, Iowa – Milw Gone, disappeared about the time the Milwaukee gave up. This was a neat r/h, wonderful roundhouse foreman, Mr. Mooty.
>
> Perry, Iowa - Milw No more Milwaukee in Perry. The CNW/UP uses former Milwaukee tracks, my guess is no more tt.







Date: 05/10/04 20:56
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: trainhorns




Date: 05/10/04 23:11
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: Jim700

BNSF Parkwater, Washington turntable. The large roundhouse, which disappeared in stages and used to store some historical NP steamers, is long gone. The turntable lies within a balloon track which is accessed via the main yard or the "hell hole".

http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?t=2&s=11&x=1188&y=13200&z=11&w=2



Date: 05/11/04 02:03
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: espeeboy

Uh Joe, you of all people should know that the Hobart diesel facility is no longer right? ;)

Guessing that your links to the Terra image maps are from an older pre-BNSF Commerce facility date. But it is nice to still see the plan view of the old ATSF diesel facility at Hobart after these last 7 years...



Date: 05/11/04 03:32
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: nathan314

Yes, there's still a turntable and roundhouse in Cheyenne, though the roundhouse is nothing like what it used to be. The turntable is 125', or just barely long enough to turn a Big Boy. Here's a shot of Cheyenne shop switcher UP 96 on the turntable last year.

Nathan




Date: 05/11/04 05:28
Re: Surviving Big Roundhouses & Turntables
Author: LCW

Nitehostler Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The former ATSF roundhouse in Las Vegas, NM should
> still be there; no turntable or pit, but it has 30
> or more stalls, I believe.


Yep, still there. and to add insult to injury, it is the home of a regional trucking company.



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