Steam & Excursion > Lawsuits in Cheyenne vs UP Steam.

It has come to my attention, that this past week, the first of possibly many depositions of Mr. Ed Dickens, Jr, took place, involving the sexual harassment lawsuit. Obviously, it didn't go well for Mr. Dickens!

Subsequently, there is now a "movement" in Omaha to fire Mr. Dickens, and bring back the previous Foreman General, Mr. Henry Krenning, who is still an employee of UP, and is the person bringing the second lawsuit against Mr. Dickens. Mr. Krenning would be give full support, as DIRECTOR of the UP Steam Shop, to fire & hire persons OR sub-contractors as necessary. Reportedly, these changes could take place in September, 2014.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/23/14 13:04 by HotWater.

Might need popcorn AND milk duds for this one.

Doug Wetherhold
Macungie, PA

HotWater Wrote:

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> Subsequently, there is now a "movement" to fire
> Mr. Dickens, and bring back the previous Foreman
> General, Mr. Henry Krenning.

Well hell, didnt you start that long ago?

ALCO630 Wrote:
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> Might need popcorn AND milk duds for this one.


And an x-lrg soda to wash it all down!

KC

And this is why I subscribed to this forum, I want to read what is actually going on, good or bad. I consider this good news.

Man that would be good news! I for one am hopping this one has wheels..

How is the content of the deposition known ?

I hope they drop the hammer ASAP on E. D.

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Its not. It has to remain confidential. If not Ed is a victor and UP has 2 problems to deal with.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/23/14 13:33 by TomG.

I will be honest. The more i see about Ed. The more i dislike him. He is a good guy to talk to. But he isn't the best guy for that position. Yes i respect him. Yes he made some REALLY BIG unforgettable mistakes.

As I said before, where do we park the refrigerator car with beer in Cheyenne when Der Leader is gone?

UP needs the 844, 3985 and 4014 running for what is the best public relations tools in the world.

TomG Wrote:
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> Its not. It has to remain confidential. If not Ed
> is a victor and UP has 2 problems to deal with.

But that doesn't matter because it "obviously" didn't go well for him.

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CPRR Wrote:
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> UP needs the 844, 3985 and 4014 running for what
> is the best public relations tools in the world.

Well said! This is good news for the program and the fine steam power that sits silent in Cheyenne and I hope Mr. Krening gets his chance.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/23/14 15:13 by NWClassJ.

Maybe this has been covered before and I missed it amid the sea of messages, but please let us know what Mr. Krenning's suit is about. Surely it is not sexual harassment.

Thanks in advance,

Rob L.

First off,let me preface my comments by saying I have no horse in this race. I neither know or support any of the participants involved,nor have any interest in UP affairs. That being said I have to wonder about UP's motives in the possible offering one of the litigants a promotion,and into the position currently occupied by the other party. Is it a quid pro quo? A payoff? I am not inferring the party is not completely qualified,and maybe should have been in the posistion from the beginning,but why now? Just the way it was reported here,and only knowing what I read,makes me wonder what is going on behind the scenes,and why.

Tom

towazy Wrote:
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> First off,let me preface my comments by saying I
> have no horse in this race. I neither know or
> support any of the participants involved,nor have
> any interest in UP affairs. That being said I have
> to wonder about UP's motives in the possible
> offering one of the litigants a promotion,and into
> the position currently occupied by the other
> party. Is it a quid pro quo? A payoff? I am not
> inferring the party is not completely
> qualified,and maybe should have been in the
> posistion from the beginning,but why now? Just
> the way it was reported here,and only knowing what
> I read,makes me wonder what is going on behind the
> scenes,and why.
>
> Tom

Maybe it has just now dawned on UP how serious this
stuff is or potentially is, and what they may stand
to lose if they lose one or more of these suits.

99.99% of the populace doesn't know or care that UP has steam engines. They are more toys than contributing assets.

CPRR Wrote:
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> UP needs the 844, 3985 and 4014 running for what
> is the best public relations tools in the world.

some notable VIP's like them like henry Kisenger back in the day

"Discovery..."

One of the uses of sworn depositions is to 'challenge' the witness during the [potential] trial.
Often, what's said on the 'stand' [may be under a lot of pressure] contradicts what's recorded in the depositions.
The trap has been sprung.... "You stated 'A' on page s-&-so of the deposition: NOW you've told the jury that what happened is 'B'. Which one is the truth?"

There is often a LONG time delay between the depos and any trial --memory tends to fade about what reaction & wording was recorded at the time of the depositions.
SOOOO... depositions in themselves are relatively harmless----when the lawyers, at trial, smell blood in the water, THAT'S when the depos really can be the "torpedoes below the waterline" for the defense.

As time and events unfold, its common for a settlement to be reached before trial.
And, the Company lawyers may decide to recommend & seek an out-of-court settlement.

The Plaintiff's lawyers are probably very sure of their outcome(s) EVEN before launching their suit.
I doubt if this is their "first Rodeo..." involving the U.P. RR.

I'm just sayin'...

Wes C.

Well...whatever happens, don't damage or terminate the 4014 program. A lot of us want to see one of them babies run before we die.