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Date: 12/14/14 13:29
Christmas Train Slipping Big Time
Author: Wacky-roger1942

Bring a nonperishable food item and ride for free was the way rides were done today. The sanders don't help with the engine in reverse.

Roger Hogan
Chama, NM
Train Stuff



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Date: 12/14/14 14:30
Re: Christmas Train Slipping Big Time
Author: pmack

The very pronounced echoes starting about 1:20 are pretty cool. It looks like good throttle operation to me, keeping the train moving right on the edge of slipping. It never stalled.

Is this an example of a loco slightly out of square?



Date: 12/14/14 14:50
Re: Christmas Train Slipping Big Time
Author: Wacky-roger1942

pmack Wrote:
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> The very pronounced echoes starting about 1:20 are
> pretty cool. It looks like good throttle
> operation to me, keeping the train moving right on
> the edge of slipping. It never stalled.
>
> Is this an example of a loco slightly out of
> square?


I was told it was because nothing had been on the track for a week and the engine hadn't moved for a week and the sanders could not help with the engine in reverse.

Roger Hogan
Chama, NM
Train Stuff



Date: 12/14/14 14:54
Re: Christmas Train Slipping Big Time
Author: Frisco1522

Steam locomotives have a devilish sense of humor. They love to wait until you are blowing the whistle to break loose and slip. I got caught a couple of times like that. Embarassing. 1522 had a sanding line for backing moves also, which came in handy.



Date: 12/14/14 15:06
Re: Christmas Train Slipping Big Time
Author: tomstp

Ever so slightly out of square but, not bad. Far better than the 487 or 484. 489 is the best square K-36 on the C&T.



Date: 12/14/14 15:25
Re: Christmas Train Slipping Big Time
Author: Earlk

Unless they have been changed, all the C&TS engines are set up with sanders for forward motion only. That is all four sander pipes come down in front of the drivers pointed to the rear to put sand under the #1 and #3 drivers when moving forward. Pulling backward is not going to work too well when things get slippery - as the video shows. Good bit of throttle jockeying by the hogger though.



Date: 12/14/14 15:27
Re: Christmas Train Slipping Big Time
Author: Wacky-roger1942

Frisco1522 Wrote:
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> Steam locomotives have a devilish sense of humor.
> They love to wait until you are blowing the
> whistle to break loose and slip. I got caught a
> couple of times like that. Embarassing. 1522 had
> a sanding line for backing moves also, which came
> in handy.


I am told they all have their own personality.

Roger Hogan
Chama, NM
Train Stuff



Date: 12/14/14 15:28
Re: Christmas Train Slipping Big Time
Author: Wacky-roger1942

tomstp Wrote:
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> Ever so slightly out of square but, not bad. Far
> better than the 487 or 484. 489 is the best square
> K-36 on the C&T.


The crew said they were happy with her.

Roger Hogan
Chama, NM
Train Stuff



Date: 12/14/14 15:29
Re: Christmas Train Slipping Big Time
Author: Wacky-roger1942

Earlk Wrote:
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> Unless they have been changed, all the C&TS
> engines are set up with sanders for forward motion
> only. That is all four sander pipes come down in
> front of the drivers pointed to the rear to put
> sand under the #1 and #3 drivers when moving
> forward. Pulling backward is not going to work
> too well when things get slippery - as the video
> shows. Good bit of throttle jockeying by the
> hogger though.


My understanding is they are still the same.

Roger Hogan
Chama, NM
Train Stuff



Date: 12/14/14 16:46
Re: Christmas Train Slipping Big Time
Author: jkh2cpu

Wow, Roger! That's some video :-)

John.



Date: 12/14/14 17:39
Re: Christmas Train Slipping Big Time
Author: Wacky-roger1942

jkh2cpu Wrote:
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> Wow, Roger! That's some video :-)
>
> John.


Thanks John.

Roger Hogan
Chama, NM
Train Stuff



Date: 12/14/14 21:35
Re: Christmas Train Slipping Big Time
Author: roustabout

Engineer earned his pay on that run. Great catch and video; thank you very much and Merry Christmas from Shedd!



Date: 12/14/14 22:13
Re: Christmas Train Slipping Big Time
Author: Margaret_SP_fan

Wow! That is a great video! The sound
is incredible! What a catch! I was amazed
at how well that hoghead handled the
loco -- never quite stalled! Wow......
That is one really good hoghead! The
loco's bark is awesome!



Date: 12/15/14 05:41
Re: Christmas Train Slipping Big Time
Author: Wacky-roger1942

roustabout Wrote:
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> Engineer earned his pay on that run. Great catch
> and video; thank you very much and Merry Christmas
> from Shedd!


Happy holiday wishes to you and yours.

Roger Hogan
Chama, NM
Train Stuff



Date: 12/15/14 05:41
Re: Christmas Train Slipping Big Time
Author: Wacky-roger1942

Margaret_SP_fan Wrote:
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> Wow! That is a great video! The sound
> is incredible! What a catch! I was amazed
> at how well that hoghead handled the
> loco -- never quite stalled! Wow......
> That is one really good hoghead! The
> loco's bark is awesome!


Jose is a good one.

Roger Hogan
Chama, NM
Train Stuff



Date: 12/15/14 13:29
Re: Christmas Train Slipping Big Time
Author: tehachapi-dave

Great video, the echo is amazing.

Tehachapi-TJ Over & Out.



Date: 12/15/14 15:00
Re: Christmas Train Slipping Big Time
Author: Wacky-roger1942

tehachapi-dave Wrote:
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> Great video, the echo is amazing.
>
> Tehachapi-TJ Over & Out.


This location is one of my favorite cuz of the echo.

Roger Hogan
Chama, NM
Train Stuff



Date: 12/20/14 14:29
Re: Christmas Train Slipping Big Time
Author: Cumbresfan

Roger,
Did they go as far as Dalton or stop at Lobato to run the engine around? That section from the trestle to Dalton is awfully steep to be running in reverse.



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