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Steam & Excursion > May All Your Logs Be Bigger Than Your Locomotive!Date: 01/16/15 02:55 May All Your Logs Be Bigger Than Your Locomotive! Author: LoggerHogger In the early days of steam logging railroads in the Northern California Redwood country, the steam locomotives of the day were actually quite small, especially when compared to the logs they were assigned to haul.
Many of these engines had to be delivered to their owners by ship which led to the small size for many of these early steam pots. An example of these early small engines is Gualala Mill Co. #4 shown here at the mill with her impressive loads of redwood logs. This small engine and her railroad were later taken over by the American Redwood Lumber Co. #4 was built by Baldwin in 1889 and she weighed only 40-tons with 12" x 20" cylinders. Small or not, she could haul some pretty impressive loads for her day! Martin Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01/16/15 03:25 by LoggerHogger.   Date: 01/16/15 06:26 Re: May All Your Logs Be Bigger Than Your Locomotive! Author: YG Date: 01/16/15 07:18 Re: May All Your Logs Be Bigger Than Your Locomotive! Author: MarkMeoff There's a kid standing on the pilot of the locomotive. Wonder what his job was.
Date: 01/16/15 07:23 Re: May All Your Logs Be Bigger Than Your Locomotive! Author: filmteknik This really speaks to the efficiency of railroads in general.
Date: 01/16/15 08:07 Re: May All Your Logs Be Bigger Than Your Locomotive! Author: webmaster MarkMeoff Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > There's a kid standing on the pilot of the > locomotive. Wonder what his job was. Perhaps he was the automatic sander. Todd Clark Canyon Country, CA Trainorders.com Date: 01/16/15 08:18 Re: May All Your Logs Be Bigger Than Your Locomotive! Author: Earlk I'd be willing to bet that train is from one tree...
Date: 01/16/15 08:36 Re: May All Your Logs Be Bigger Than Your Locomotive! Author: Tominde Impressive indeed. Is that engine an 0-4-2 ? How do you classify when engine and tender are one? Sorry, I'm not up on logging railroads, but I sure enjoy learning about them here.
Date: 01/16/15 08:40 Re: May All Your Logs Be Bigger Than Your Locomotive! Author: LoggerHogger She is an 0-4-2T
Martin Date: 01/16/15 09:00 Re: May All Your Logs Be Bigger Than Your Locomotive! Author: TCnR Four wheel log cars, no air brakes??
What did they use for brakes? Maybe this is a posed shot after a few runs to the mill. *after more coffee this moves to the gag photo section, unless they have a DPU on the rear-end. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/16/15 10:48 by TCnR. Date: 01/16/15 09:05 Re: May All Your Logs Be Bigger Than Your Locomotive! Author: elueck I have a copy of the same photo from a family archive here in Louisiana (of all places). My copy is not nearly so clear, but there are a couple of people identified in the photo.
The young man standing on the pilot is identified as Billie Allen, son of the mill superintendent, William Allen. William Allen is identified as the man on the ground in front of the second log car. If you will notice in the picture, there are also two men, in coat and tie, standing on the trestle, directly next to the second log car. I cannot identify them due to the resolution of the picture, but they bear a superficial resemblance to Stamps Crowell and Caleb T Crowell who were large stockholders in Empire Redwood / Gualala Mill in 1905 when the caption suggests that the picture was taken. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/16/15 09:10 by elueck. Date: 01/16/15 10:33 Re: May All Your Logs Be Bigger Than Your Locomotive! Author: Earlk Them Crowells sure did get around, didn't they....
Date: 01/16/15 11:28 Re: May All Your Logs Be Bigger Than Your Locomotive! Author: Harlock Not only were the locomotives smaller but the logs were bigger as the best stands of virgin forest were just starting to get logged. In West Side Pictoral, if you look at the size of the logs at the beginning of the book compared with the end of the book...big difference. In the beginning all the photos looked like that, single giant trunk on each later. towards the mid 1900s lots of smaller logs on each car.
Mike Massee Tehachapi, CA Photography, Railroading and more.. Date: 01/16/15 12:08 Re: May All Your Logs Be Bigger Than Your Locomotive! Author: march_hare Earlk Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > I'd be willing to bet that train is from one > tree... yup, just imagine having to do all that cross-cut work by hand in the woods. My biceps ache just looking... Date: 01/16/15 12:15 Re: May All Your Logs Be Bigger Than Your Locomotive! Author: chakk Earlk Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > I'd be willing to bet that train is from one > tree... Might be possible to confirm if someone could electronically "cut and paste" all of the pieces to see if they can be aligned up -- doesn't appear that they were positioned on the cars in "sequential" order from top of trunk to bottom of trunk. Would also be interesting to know how OLD this tree was. Date: 01/16/15 19:57 Re: May All Your Logs Be Bigger Than Your Locomotive! Author: CPRR Earlk Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > I'd be willing to bet that train is from one > tree... If you enlarge the image, look closely at the bark on the 3rd and 4th car. The bark pattern lines up. Look closely at the rest and again with the bark pattern, I agree the load is one tree. How old? I guess about 2500 years for a redwood this large. Incredable image. Thank you Martin Posted from iPhone |