Steam & Excursion > I'm not much of a betting man...

but I'll bet we'll see the C&O 2-6-6-2 run BEFORE we see the 4-8-8-4 in steam.

Keystone1 Wrote:
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> but I'll bet we'll see the C&O 2-6-6-2 run BEFORE
> we see the 4-8-8-4 in steam.


That is a given, in my opinion!

What would be the odds that the 4014 would get to steam first?
Will the odds-makers want to play?
Wes C.

That's too easy. The 2-6-6-2 is underway. We don't even know when the Big Boy will be started.

It would be a closer bet to pit it against stablemate 4-8-4

Posted from Android

You might not be much of a betting man but you can sure beat a dead horse.

How many people would it take to get the Big Boy operating in a year?

30 or 40 working 8 hours a day 5 days a week?

I'm not saying it would happen, just wondering how big a task it is.

That many people would be in each other's way most of the time.

Realist Wrote:
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> That many people would be in each other's way most
> of the time.

True. Never thought of it like that.

I look at 1218's restoration and see it took a little less than two years. I realize Robert Claytor probably sunk a ton of money into it which sped things along, but could UP accomplish the same thing with 4014 if they put a bunch of money into it, or is it simply just going to take longer?

(I understand they have bigger fish to fry in the shop right now. I'm speaking hypothetically.)

Defective_Detector Wrote:
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> How many people would it take to get the Big Boy
> operating in a year?
>
> 30 or 40 working 8 hours a day 5 days a week?

What Realist said; three women could't make a baby in three months.



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Defective_Detector Wrote:
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> How many people would it take to get the Big Boy
> operating in a year?
>
> 30 or 40 working 8 hours a day 5 days a week?
>
> I'm not saying it would happen, just wondering how
> big a task it is.


Don't forget that the shop must be "put back together", prior to pretty much any work being done on either of the two locomotives currently in the shop.

You, whatever you means, walk up to the 4014, stroll the length, look up and down
and tell me where you'd start. Restoration concepts, plans, etc are easy to write,
actually starting, getting feet in place and dealing with the sheer size of the
project is a whole other enchilada. There is still no one in place in Chian who is
capable of doing that, this project will never go to completion until the UP brings
in an individual or individuals capable of handling a project this size. Simple
truth.

Out

Not capable of doing any of the engines, as they are down to 1 boilermaker and 4 unskilled people, all inexperienced in heavy repair and restoration. Heck, even light repairs.

They are, however, all well-versed and highly experienced in shining and polishing and silver trim painting, pizza pan installing and flag hanging. Not to mention brown nosing.

Isn't that what matters most?



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Hey Realist....good thing I didn't write this!

No comment!

There are several ways the 4014 can get fixed, and of course a far larger number of ways it can NOT get fixed.

If we assume, at least for the sake of argument, that one of the ways that will result in it being fixed is chosen, then the time will depend on which plan is chosen. Which plan is chosen will probably depend directly and solely in how much money the CEO of UP wants to, or is willing to, invest in the project. Other people (like the New Boss) will make up a list of possible plans, the resources required, and the associated costs, and the expected completion date. Various people up the line with then pee on these numbers to mark their territory.

The final rather soggy package will eventually make it to the CEO's desk. If it doesn't (if some lower being doesn't like the smell of the pee on the plan and scuttles it rather than contributing his own pee and passing it on) then it won't be funded, period.

Once the CEO has the plan, he will look at it, decide it is too soggy to touch, and ask one of his direct reports for a summary. Hopefully that person will have read the plan and be able to quote the numbers. If not, it won't get funded.

Once the numbers are quoted, the CEO will muse for a minute or two, ask someone when the Centennial is going to be, ask the first guy if one of the plans will get it done in that time, and if the answer is positive, will write a blank check for getting it done by then. He will then forget it exists and go on to some other soggy proposal sitting on his desk.

I'm sure the C&O 2-6-6-2 will be operational before any UP steam engines are.

This is an easy one, as I would be very hard pressed to be convinced that anything will be moving out of Cheyenne in the next several years. I would bet the 838 could be put back together in about the same length of time.

Steve

I just wanna see the 3985 out again. I'm also kinda excited for depot days this spring.

coastdaylight Wrote:
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> I'm sure the C&O 2-6-6-2 will be operational
> before any UP steam engines are.


I bet that won't happen, once the new UP Guy gets things squared away the way it supposed to be don't be surprised to see 3985 running!



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