Steam & Excursion > NYC Mohawk 2933 Cosmetically Restored

In today's Trains.com Newswire, there is an article about the Museum of Transportation (just outside of St. Louis) cosmetically restoring New York Central Mohawk (4-8-2) 2933.  Based on the photo accompanying the article, it appears that a great job was done on restoring this handsome locomotive.

Click on the following links for more information:

February 14 2017 Trains.com Newswire article

Museum of Transportation

Wikipedia article about NYC Mohawks

If anyone has a link to a better website about NYC Mohawks, by all means post it.

 

That's a good crew of volunteers doing these cosmetic restorations.  I wonder if this sort of thing will continue now that the organization has changed?

How many gallons of paint did that take?

Thanks for those links, Dave.  The 2933 hasn't looked that good since she came out of Alco Schenectady in November 1929, numbered 6233 for the "Big Four", CCC&StL.  Later renumbered to 2933.  She is an L-2d.

Beautiful! All it needs are white tires and running board to look fresh out of the factory. (Although probably ony the engine chosen from the order for the builder photo got that treatment.)

Hope they leave it out to see. The Centennial got buried and nose coupled after NS painted it last year.

tomstp Wrote:
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> How many gallons of paint did that take?

I wondered that also. When you paint a locomotive like this, is it brush/roller or air sprayed? How do they get to places that would require parts to be removed? What kind of paint do they use? Just curious.

They did a great job.

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SD45X Wrote:
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> Hope they leave it out to see. 

That is a dilemma for any museum -- do you leave a newly-restored piece of equipment outside where it can be best viewed but subjected to the same elements that caused it to deteriorate in the first place, or do you put it under cover where it is protected but difficult to view.  The Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania has the ability to display a limited amount of equipment indoors that is able to be easily photographed, but it is a small percentage of their collection.

Railroad museums are all grossly underfunded.  Buildings are hugely expensive and most museums struggle just to keep their collections intact.  For whatever reasons, railroad museums in the US have never received the kind of corporate support (where are you GE, Siemens, Bombardier?) that have the Arts.  Our fixation on low taxes means government budgets at all levels are strained and when the choice is fixing potholes or supporting a railroad museum you know who wins.  And finally, public support from both railfans and the public at large pales in comparison to that found in, for example, the U.K.

I'll get off my soapbox now, but we all need to keep in mind the difficulties faced by museums, and the obligation we all face to support them by whatever means we are able -- with money, with volunteered time, or both.

Gordon

Gordon:

YOU NAILED it, buddy.  Arts - always going bankrumpt - why?  Not enough people are willing to buy tickets to see them at prices high enough to pay the bills.

Looks great.  Much better than the sad state this engine was in during the early 1990's.  We need one of those clear display cases you put over a scale model to keep the dust off...

Scott Griggs
Louisville, KY

iliketrains Wrote:
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> Gordon:
>
> YOU NAILED it, buddy.  Arts - always going
> bankrumpt - why?  Not enough people are willing
> to buy tickets to see them at prices high enough
> to pay the bills.

A big correction to your statement: It is not people that are willing that matters, but people that have the means to afford to do so is what matters.

I have a will to see every steam special steam trip in the US that occurs. But I do not have the means to afford to do so.

gbmott Wrote:
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> SD45X Wrote:
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> -----
> > Hope they leave it out to see. 
>
> That is a dilemma for any museum -- do you leave a
> newly-restored piece of equipment outside where it
> can be best viewed but subjected to the same
> elements that caused it to deteriorate in the
> first place, or do you put it under cover where it
> is protected but difficult to view.  The Railroad
> Museum of Pennsylvania has the ability to display
> a limited amount of equipment indoors that is able
> to be easily photographed, but it is a small
> percentage of their collection.
>
> Railroad museums are all grossly underfunded.
>  Buildings are hugely expensive and most museums
> struggle just to keep their collections intact.
>  For whatever reasons, railroad museums in the US
> have never received the kind of corporate support
> (where are you GE, Siemens, Bombardier?) that have
> the Arts.  Our fixation on low taxes means
> government budgets at all levels are strained and
> when the choice is fixing potholes or supporting a
> railroad museum you know who wins.  And finally,
> public support from both railfans and the public
> at large pales in comparison to that found in, for
> example, the U.K.
>
> I'll get off my soapbox now, but we all need to
> keep in mind the difficulties faced by museums,
> and the obligation we all face to support them by
> whatever means we are able -- with money, with
> volunteered time, or both.
>
> Gordon



Good points. England is the shining example, though Germany and some smaller EU countries also have very good preservation scenes.

There are multiple cultural reasons that stop the US from achieving what has been accomplished in England, but the Heritage Lottery funding system is one facet of the British system we could mimic here without too much effort.

Rob

Does anyone know where they are at on the Wabash Mogul? The Wabash Railroad Historical Society and another organization that sold reproduction china raised funds to restore it.

​Victor A. Baird
​http://www.erstwhilepublications.copm

wabash2800 Wrote:
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> Does anyone know where they are at on the Wabash
> Mogul? The Wabash Railroad Historical Society and
> another organization that sold reproduction china
> raised funds to restore it.
>
> ​Victor A. Baird
> ​http://www.erstwhilepublications.copm

The St Louis NRHS Chapter posted an update with pics on Facebook this week. One more coat of paint and stenciling and it will be on display soon

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​Thanks for the update.
Victor A. Baird
​http://www.erstwhilepublications.com

Spoony81 Wrote:

> The St Louis NRHS Chapter posted an update with
> pics on Facebook this week. One more coat of paint
> and stenciling and it will be on display soon
>
> Posted from iPhone