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Steam & Excursion > AFT 4449 or UP 3985?Date: 07/23/02 20:06 AFT 4449 or UP 3985? Author: oktrainboys OK, The following list is a snapshot of mental images of recent experiences with both. Just thought it would be fun. Which one do you prefer?
AFT 4449 ....... UP 3985 In the driver\'s seat: Doyle, .... Bob Colors: Red, White, Blue , ..... Black, Lt.Grey Slippage : No(unfortunately), ..... No(unfortunately) People : Artrain Society, ..... Ranch Hands Plants: Roses , .... Cactus Wildlife: Couple walking dog , .... Rattlesnakes Eats : Full Menu Resturant,.... Buffalo Ribs,Beans, Beer Weather : Cool & Crisp, ..... Tornado Warnings Pacing Hazards : TV Highway Red Lights ...... 50 Car Jam on US85 Cab Tours : Yes! , ...... Yes! .................................................. Two Steam Locomotives...Alike but yet very different. Which is Cooler? No one really knows for sure. Just thought this list would fall into the spirit of this board. Thanks OKtrainboys Date: 07/23/02 20:48 Re: AFT 4449 or UP 3985? Author: nycman Mike, I\'m sure this isn\'t going to help you decide. I\'m trying to post both photos. If it doesn\'t work there will be a second response.
 Date: 07/23/02 21:03 Re: AFT 4449 or UP 3985? Author: oktrainboys Fitz, Two pictures are worth two thousand MORE words...Thanks for completing the thought!
Date: 07/23/02 21:05 Drivers slip? Oh yeah... Author: alco636 When the 3985 visited Minnesota this past June, I saw the drivers slip once. Just as Steve Lee pulled her to a stop at Owatonna, MN the rear engine slipped pretty good. Nothing major, but a little excitement. As for the AFT-3985 thing, well I\'ll take the 3985 any day. No offense meant towards the 4449 and crew.
Date: 07/23/02 21:58 Re: Drivers slip? Oh yeah... Author: CPB284 Hard to pick one over the other..... both are great and we are lucky to have them operating.
I guess I am biased since I haven\'t seen the 4449 in person. So I am going to go with UP 3985. Date: 07/23/02 22:15 Re: AFT 4449 or UP 3985? Author: samreeves As much as I do like both, we\'ve been spoiled with two Pacifics of our own. Both sound sweeter than the hoarsecroakers on the Lima or Alco. There\'s something to be said about the rhythm of the exhaust of two Pacifics at the same time.
Date: 07/23/02 22:27 Re: Drivers slip? Oh yeah... Author: smokebox My best memory of the 3985 was her last visit to Portland a few years back. The trainset departed Union Station with the E units and met up with the 3985 a few miles down the tracks (3985 is to tight for the curves into the depot). It was raining pretty good that day, and the 3985 had a long train to start up the Gulch line grade. I was amazed at what sounded like a thousand drummers beating and blasting away. It was raw power with a hogger who knew his machine. No, the drivers didn\'t slip, but if they did it would\'ve been one hell of a mess!
As for the 4449, it was ridding in the cab blasting up Napa Vine Hill near Centrailia, WA, with the throttle to the roof, 79mph, with grade crossings at the summit. The sound was just incredible. I hope someday someone will get audio recordings at this location. This is the best location for stack talk between Portland and Seattle. On the flat, 79mph doesn\'t moove the throttle that far back, but this was the only time I\'ve ever seen her big chrome stick so far into the roof! Nothing better than mainline steam working hard! Smokebox Date: 07/24/02 08:26 Re: AFT 4449 or UP 3985? Author: oktrainboys Testing, Testing 1,2,3,4,8,4...Can you hear me now??
 Date: 07/24/02 08:47 Re: AFT 4449 or UP 3985? Author: oktrainboys Doyle, Are you home? Big is good, but how do I make this pic smaller?
OKtrainboys Date: 07/24/02 13:52 Oh Boy Author: Bob3985 Hey OKtrainboys;
Someone has got to keep you out of Caboose Hobbies. I think the Lionel smoke is gettin to yall. Bob Date: 07/24/02 14:23 Re: AFT 4449 or UP 3985? Author: nycman Sam--"hoarsecroakers"--I love it. You\'re right, those passenger whistles sound great. Beautiful pictures of those great Pacifics.
Date: 07/24/02 16:01 Re: Oh Boy Author: JimPoston Gee - I thought *I* was the only one out West who still said "y\'all". *S*
(Awright, awright - blame my 20-some years in Florida...) Jim Date: 07/24/02 18:28 Re: Oh Boy Author: ge13031 IF IT\'S STEAM ... YES!
Hats off to the folks with the brass appurtenances that manage to keep these babies movin\' along! Date: 07/24/02 21:33 Re: Oh Boy Author: oktrainboys Caboose hobbies? Lionel train smoke....Uh oh, Mr. Krieger, You\'re on to us!!
 Date: 07/24/02 21:37 Re: Oh Boy Author: oktrainboys Just a new Dad having big fun with his 4yr old son. Thanks for helping. Now let\'s get back to the issue at hand.
 Date: 07/25/02 11:55 Re: Oh Boy Author: oktrainboys Awesome, Coming and going...Does anyone know if this sight will accept movie files?
 Date: 07/25/02 12:04 Re: Oh Boy Author: oktrainboys Lt. Grey and Black?? Looks like we forgot gold.
 Date: 07/25/02 14:44 Re: Oh Boy Author: nycman Mike, nice shots! Where\'s the 4449? Yes, TO does accept MPEG (movie) files. Go look in the Media Library.
Date: 07/26/02 11:09 Re: Oh Boy Author: oktrainboys Left or Right...Hmmm. Now that is one well balanced locomotive. Fitz, have a few more good ones but in retrospect I don\'t have as many as I should. Turns out I was sensory overload....for 3 days!
OKtrainboys  Date: 07/26/02 12:26 Re: Oh Boy Author: oktrainboys It\'s kinda like being in a fog....We all know the feeling.
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