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SP F5 3765 Fresno 1955 (Stan Kistler Foto)

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Was this one of the "Prosperity Special" engines?

yardclerk Wrote:
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> Was this one of the "Prosperity Special" engines?

I don't think so, that group included 3670 for one. She was built in Jan., 1922 as b/n 55235.
This photo of 3765 is probably one of the better ones around and shows an SP 2-10-2 that has been modernized with a larger
16,000 gallon tender and disc main driver.

Tom

The "Prosperity Special" engines were: 3668 thuough 3687. Southern Pacific Bulletin August 1922 copy of the Baldwin Locomotive Works Bill of Lading.

SP2778 Wrote:
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> SP F5 3765 Fresno 1955 (Stan Kistler Foto)


Exqueeze me, but I believe that the F5 was a transitional Diesel unit produced by EMD between the end of F3 production and the beginning of F7 production. Not many of them built. I'll have to go back to my books to get a roster.

An F5 steam engine? Who cares? :-)

A lot of people care!

DutchDoor Wrote:
Maybe you should put your head back in those books? First SP 2-10-2 pic I've seen, and I have Three Barrels of Steam, seen the 4-10-2's. Thanks for sharing. Silly diesel wing nut.-------------------------------------------------------
> SP2778 Wrote:
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> > SP F5 3765 Fresno 1955 (Stan Kistler Foto)
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> Exqueeze me, but I believe that the F5 was a
> transitional Diesel unit produced by EMD between
> the end of F3 production and the beginning of F7
> production. Not many of them built. I'll have to
> go back to my books to get a roster.
>
> An F5 steam engine? Who cares? :-)

DutchDoor Wrote:
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> SP2778 Wrote:
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> > SP F5 3765 Fresno 1955 (Stan Kistler Foto)
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> Exqueeze me, but I believe that the F5 was a
> transitional Diesel unit produced by EMD between
> the end of F3 production and the beginning of F7
> production. Not many of them built. I'll have to
> go back to my books to get a roster.
>
> An F5 steam engine? Who cares? :-)


I care!

Con

Very nice, my favorite is the AC-9 of all SP steam, well and the 0-6-0's.

What they used to call a "Deck". Used a lot in helper service in SLO.

Nudge

I think our man DutchDoor was speaking with tongue well and truly in cheek.

That's a wonderful shot and thanks a lot for sharing.

I also appreciate knowing those are 16,000 gallon tenders, Tom. I'd wondered about that. Were they water bottom framed?

I'd forgotten the Prosperity Special was in 1922, I'd initially had 1925 in mind when I first read the question. Sam Vauclain was quite a salesman!!

4-12-2 Wrote:
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> I think our man DutchDoor was speaking with tongue
> well and truly in cheek.
>
> That's a wonderful shot and thanks a lot for
> sharing.
>
> I also appreciate knowing those are 16,000 gallon
> tenders, Tom. I'd wondered about that. Were they
> water bottom framed?
>
> I'd forgotten the Prosperity Special was in 1922,
> I'd initially had 1925 in mind when I first read
> the question. Sam Vauclain was quite a salesman!!

I really do not know about the tender construction. And don't have any plans around of them. One guy who would know is
Arnold Menke.
Trivia question...besides some of the 4-8-2's, some of the 2-10-2's and the 4-10-2's, what other SP locomotive trailed one of
these 16,000 gallon tenders? Hint...it's a single odd locomotive.

Tom

It worked the harbor run and was scrapped in 1954 I believe. The GS-1s, AC4,5,6s and some Pacifics on the T&NO all had the this tender. The GS1s got larger tenders later.

SP2778 Wrote:
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> It worked the harbor run and was scrapped in 1954
> I believe. The GS-1s, AC4,5,6s and some Pacifics
> on the T&NO all had the this tender. The GS1s got
> larger tenders later.

Correct, it was MM-3 3930, one of two compound 2-6-6-2's that came from Verde Tunnel & Smelter. These were very close
to the WP little Malleys in design.

Tom

4-12-2 asked if these big tenders were of the water bottom type. I just got an answer back from Arnold Menke and he says that
the 160C tenders in question were of this type and that they were made of cast steel.
There's a pic of one in the later version of the 4300 book by Robert Church.

Tom