Nostalgia & History > OERM 1981 Work Train

Extending the wire South in 1981, three shots of an Orange Empire Museum work train. At one point in
the far distant past there were plans to run to a county park South of the museum grounds.

Out

---

---

---

what happened to those plans?

Yes, getting to downtown Perris and the depot is terrific - but the scenery is so much better running south.

I have never seen operations South of the depot. Just curious how often it happens, if at all?

Disco Dave Foster and I were at one of the Railfan Days affairs and they ran right down to the
end of track, so I guess at least once in a while.

Out

CCT41 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I have never seen operations South of the depot.
> Just curious how often it happens, if at all?


Happened two Saturdays ago. PE 717 did the honors.

>Yes, getting to downtown Perris and the depot is terrific - but the scenery is so much better running south.

True, but it'll all be houses in a few more years and they'll be wanting the rails out of their backyards....

k_falls71 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> >Yes, getting to downtown Perris and the depot is
> terrific - but the scenery is so much better
> running south.
>
> True, but it'll all be houses in a few more years
> and they'll be wanting the rails out of their
> backyards....

So sad. Will this museum be swallowed up by urbanization? What does that mean for the long term?

Would be great if OERM could secure the old California Southern Railway grade south from the end of track to the edge of Canyon Lake...

... Before it's too late and housing invades the ROW!

Posted from Android

Geep Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Would be great if OERM could secure the old
> California Southern Railway grade south from the
> end of track to the edge of Canyon Lake...
>
> ... Before it's too late and housing invades the
> ROW!
>
> Posted from Android

What makes you think it hasn't happened already?

PHall Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Geep Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Would be great if OERM could secure the old
> > California Southern Railway grade south from
> the
> > end of track to the edge of Canyon Lake...
> >
> > ... Before it's too late and housing invades
> the
> > ROW!
> >
> > Posted from Android
>
> What makes you think it hasn't happened already?


Has it?

Geep Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> PHall Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Geep Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Would be great if OERM could secure the old
> > > California Southern Railway grade south from
> > the
> > > end of track to the edge of Canyon Lake...
> > >
> > > ... Before it's too late and housing invades
> > the
> > > ROW!
> > >
> > > Posted from Android
> >
> > What makes you think it hasn't happened
> already?
>
>
> Has it?

That right of way reverted back to the land owners decades ago.
You really think Santa Fe wanted to pay taxes on an abandoned right of way?

PHall Wrote:
---------------------------------------------------
> What makes you think it hasn't happened already?

> You really think Santa Fe wanted to pay taxes on an abandoned right of way?

PHall, I'd like to make a suggestion: If you have helpful information to share, then share it. Instead, you answer questions with more questions which are worded to make a person feel stupid. The member who asked the question didn't gain any useful information from you. I respectfully ask that you either contribute or don't post.

Mark

Mark, I think perhaps you missed the first sentence of his response in you concentration on the rhetorical question in the second sentence. Unless for some reason you dismissed that statement as invalid out of hand. I'm not sure why you would have done that unless you have information to the contrary.

> That right of way reverted back to the land owners
> decades ago.
> You really think Santa Fe wanted to pay taxes on
> an abandoned right of way?

Obviously not, I don't believe Santa Fe had any desire to throw money at someting without profit after the line was relocated from Corona to Alberhill.

I believe that the ROW was owned by RCTC from the Perris "Wye" south of Perris Depot (Connection to the San Jacinto Branch), to a point south, which is either the end of track or "could" be Canyon Lake per se. But I don't know. It might be reverted to original owners and that might kill the possibility of extending it south. I do hope it's RCTC, because it might aid the OERM's right to reuild the old original California Southern to the shores of Canyon Lake...

RCTC does not own any R/W south of Museum. Part of it is an easement for a street, which the present stub is on.

To go south requires a lot of money and a bridge. That were the dreams 50+ years ago.

Ed, member # 23