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Nostalgia & History > SP 2351 at Bayshore Roundhouse for Switcher SaturdayDate: 03/28/15 05:38 SP 2351 at Bayshore Roundhouse for Switcher Saturday Author: drumwrencher SP Fairbanks Morse H12-44 switcher getting some well deserved attention at the Bayshore roundhouse. Circa early seventies. I like how those giant ashcan headlamps clear the roof by only inches!
Any additional info would be most appreciated. Enjoy. Walter Sanfranciscotrains.org Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/28/15 14:06 by drumwrencher. Date: 03/28/15 06:53 Re: SP 2351 at Bayshore Roundhouse for Switcher Saturday Author: hogheaded drumwrencher Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- I like how > those giant oil can headlamps clear the roof by > only inches! Rumor has it that SP had to jack-up their roundhouse door headers to clear the FM ashcans. That's why the FM worked in so few places. ...Maybe I should have saved this remark for April 1. EO Date: 03/28/15 08:44 Re: SP 2351 at Bayshore Roundhouse for Switcher Saturday Author: PHall FM's worked in so few places because they totally perplexed mechanics used to working on EMD's and ALCO's.
Date: 03/28/15 13:11 Re: SP 2351 at Bayshore Roundhouse for Switcher Saturday Author: Milwaukee drumwrencher Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > PHall Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > FM's worked in so few places because they > totally > > perplexed mechanics used to working on EMD's > and > > ALCO's. > > My father's notes say only Bayshore, Tucson, and > El Paso handled Fairbanks Morse products. He > didn't elaborate as to why! :) > > Thanks. > > Walter I wonder if these locations may have had a population of ex-Navy mechanics who had experience with FM engines from submarines. Bayshore obviously would have been close to several Navy shipyards. I understand quite a few WWII era submarines had FM engines in them. Date: 03/28/15 15:58 Re: SP 2351 at Bayshore Roundhouse for Switcher Saturday Author: PHall drumwrencher Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Milwaukee Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > I wonder if these locations may have had a > > population of ex-Navy mechanics who had > experience > > with FM engines from submarines. Bayshore > > obviously would have been close to several Navy > > shipyards. I understand quite a few WWII era > > submarines had FM engines in them. > > In all the years, and all the conversations my > father and I had about FM's (including a few while > standing on one) he never mentioned once about > unusual experience needed. They were a diesel > engine, with the usual ancillary devices > (injection pumps, etc) that really weren't that > different from any other diesel engine. Except for > normal differences between two stroke and four > stroke engines. > > What he did say is any time any heavy work was > needed it always started with removing the top > crankshaft. He said that was the Achilles's heel. > He never once mentioned anything about needing > help from a navy mechanic. Now, that's not to say > it didn't happen; he just never mentioned it. > > Thanks > > Walter "Regular" diesel engines have just one crankshaft, the bottom one. F-M's Opposed Cylinder Diesels have two crankshafts, the top one and the bottom one. The design of these engines was unique as they were designed for the narrow spaces of diesel-electric submarines. They were later adapted for railroad use but they were orphans in the railroad industry. Date: 03/29/15 01:42 Re: SP 2351 at Bayshore Roundhouse for Switcher Saturday Author: DNRY122 There's a World War II submarine open for visitors near Fisherman's Wharf in San Francisco, with a set of FM diesels in the engine room. No SP FM locomotives were preserved--but the Western Pacific RR Museum has a military FM unit that I've ridden behind.
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