Nostalgia & History > possible V&T locomotive photo where/what is question

Hello

​This photo showed up on a facebook group a couple of day ago for semi trucks.

​1. I was corious if anyone had any ideas on the locomotive ID? It looks like a V&T locomotive used in a movie and fair sometype (union pacific)?

​2. any ideas on the event it was being trucked for?

​Photo info Uncredited

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Is that the locomotive that Ward Kimball bought?

Hi,

Due to the fluting on the top of the dome It looks like the V&T #18 "Dayton". The scrolled lettering on
the tender looks like it's paint job for the Cecil B. DeMille movie Union Pacific.  It could be being transported
to or from the filming location which was in southern Utah if I recall.   The studio also sent some of the
rolling stock on a publicity tour for the movie also.    It was also used in numerous other
movie work too, so that's a possibility.  

Can anyone date/ID the truck ? That would narrow the date down.

"Dayton" is currentley displayed in Virginia City, Nevada.

This is a standard gauge 4-4-0.  Ward Kimball's locomotive was a 36"gauge 2-6-0.  Ward's
locomotive is at Orange Empire Railway Museum in Perris, CA.

Don

Don

The truck is a Belyea Brothers Mack, REO or Autocar, as close as I can guess,  probably late 1940-1950s is the date.
Belyea moved a lot of the equipment out to LAs Travel Town.

James R.(Jim) Baker
Whittier, CA

Hi,

Beleya Brothers specialized in moving large odd items.  They were founded prior to the 1930's.

Union Pacific was filmed in 1939, which might be too early for the truck.  The movie Whispering
Smith of 1948 also used V&T #18 with scroll style lettering on the tender, but the colors seem reversed
from this photo, although movie painting and lettering could have been changed.

Don

The truck looks like a pre-war Sterling.
Chris

I agree with 3420 that the first truck is pre-war.  The second truck looks like re-painted war surplus, which would make the 1948 date of the second movie just right.
G

No.18 was aslo used in the 1958-59 Television series "Union Pacific" which was filmed on the Iverson ranch in Chatsworth, California with the tender decorated as shown in the picture.

For the 1939 movie "Union Pacific" the tender was lettered with the engine number - 119.

In Wispering Smith Speaks, 18's tender sported a narrower banner lettered Nebraska Pacific which was set against a dark background surrounded by a light pinstripe.

Source: The Movie Railroads by Jarry Jensen, first edition.

Cheers,
Jack



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