Nostalgia & History > Timetable Thursday - 1961 Frisco Northern Divn.

Other Frisco divisions from this time period will be posted at later dates.
I don't know much about the Frisco so any comments concerning items in this timetable are welcome.

Page 2 is interesting.  Whether they meant it or not the company leads you to believe the employee
is considered an important asset.   Today they treat you like a barrier to corporate prosperity.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/17 13:13 by Englewood.

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Note the CONELRAD instructions on page 20.
For those of you born after the "duck and cover" generation, CONELRAD procedures
were to be used in case the Ruskies or Chicoms attacked.
Remember the automobile radios of the time that had the two CONELRAD frequencies marked?
CONELRAD = Control of Electromagnetic Radiation

Anyone know for sure the reason for the white light governing first class trains at Ft. Scott?



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/17 12:55 by Englewood.

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Nice locomotive and passenger car rosters on pgs 23 and 24

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Map from 1967 public timetable.  Not too detailed on branch lines.
Does somebody have a better one to post?

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Having spent a very brief time on the former Frisco in 1984-88 this posting provides some fascinating reading of what once was.
​Thanks for posting and I am looking forward for your next installment.

Charlie
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Thank you for these "Thursday Timetable" posts, I am enjoying them very much.  If you know where to look, there is a lot of interesting information that can be gleamed from timetables.

As always, lots of great reading in the Time Tables you post for us.  Just getting started on this one,
but one gem immediately jumped out.  On several subdivisions, "Service rendered by extras."
 I don't think I have ever seen anything like that in a Time Table.  Classic.  Thanks for the great post.

Thanks for posting this timetable.
I see the passenger train from Wichita that ran through Augusta was gone but I bet by only a year or so.
Gary

Englewood Wrote:
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> Anyone know for sure the reason for the white
> light governing first class trains at Ft. Scott?

​My guess is the depot at Ft. Scott, where all first-class trains stopped, also housed the train dispatcher for the Northern Division.
​These white lights might have been a 'last ditch' opportunity for the DS to control the final departure of these trains from the depot,
in coordination with station forces, to ensure all was in readiness both north and south.  My read is that there was an approximately one-mile gap
​in the CTC between the Depot and beginning of CTC beyond the M.P. crossing on the Kansas City Sub. Likewise, on the Ash Grove Sub.,
the next control point south of Wall St. was, I believe, at Edward where the Afton Sub. diverged en route to Oklahoma. All of this would
be of no sense because it excluded freight movements and at the time all freight changed crews at Ft. Scott. The use of radio would make
​the lights obsolete. That's my guess and I'm stickin to it.

​Charlie


  

On another topic I had to get out my old Frisco rule book a la 1957 to decipher the abbreviations in
​the "Fuel, Water, Turntable, Wye, Std. Clock, Bulletin' column.
​Under Frisco's Rule 6: B--​General Orders and Circulars
                                    C--Standard Clock
                                    O--​Diesel fuel station
                                    G--Diesel generator water (I'm assuming steam generator here)
                                    R--Diesel radiator water
                                    T--Turntable
​                                    W--Wye

​Another oddity not encountered before is the symbol  ​2S​ at the Springfield depot.
SLSF Rule 6 shows this to indicate: Part day and part night communicating office.
Given the fact that passenger trains 105-6 and 107-8 arrived at oddball times would
​explain the split-shift arrangement.

Charlie
 

All the Frisco business carrs were over 100 tons except one!
The Sunnyland is one of my favorite train names!
Speaking of reviving Midwest to Florida passenger service,
it would be nice to have the Frisco route back to Birmingham!
You sure have a wealth of neat RR paper!  Thanks for sharing!