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Date: 02/20/17 08:50
Chicago Missouri and Northwestern
Author: hank

1  power at Mexico Missouri  January 1990.

2  at Centrailia Missouri May 1989.  Ex WP units?

3  2043 at Springfield Illinois  May 1989.

One more to follow.

Tanks

Hank








Date: 02/20/17 08:54
Re: Chicago Missouri and Northwestern
Author: hank

4.   3013 in full paint at Bloomington Illinois Noveber 1989.

Hank




Date: 02/20/17 10:28
Re: Chicago Missouri and Northwestern
Author: SD45X

Think they had 4-5 ex WP.



Date: 02/20/17 11:47
Re: Chicago Missouri and Northwestern
Author: GBW309

The railroad was actually the Chicago, Missouri and Western       Not sure why they were assigned reporting marks CMNW

Dave



Date: 02/20/17 13:06
Re: Chicago Missouri and Northwestern
Author: Spoony81

I can't place where that Springfield, IL shot was taken, any ideas?



Date: 02/20/17 13:43
Re: Chicago Missouri and Northwestern
Author: trainnut7

That pic was taken in Bloomington, Illinois.



Date: 02/20/17 13:55
Re: Chicago Missouri and Northwestern
Author: jo-tower

Shot #3 is at Ridgely Yard in Springfield Ill. just north of Sangamon Ave.
and the now gone WR tower.  The train is headed south.
CJV in Illinois.



Date: 02/20/17 14:01
Re: Chicago Missouri and Northwestern
Author: dcfbalcoS1

     And apparently because they put the 'N' in the initials, some revenue and interchange traffic went instead to the CNW.



Date: 02/20/17 14:12
Re: Chicago Missouri and Northwestern
Author: Cumbres

I would have thought that CNW and CMW would be easily confused but that CMNW being 4 letters might not.  But only conjecture on my part. 



Date: 02/20/17 16:43
Re: Chicago Missouri and Northwestern
Author: Spoony81

jo-tower Wrote:
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> Shot #3 is at Ridgely Yard in Springfield Ill.
> just north of Sangamon Ave.
> and the now gone WR tower.  The train is headed
> south.
> CJV in Illinois.

I gotcha now, once I got home and looked at it on my phone I could zoom in and make out the Sangamon Center sign and then recognized St Aloysius Church.

Posted from iPhone



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/17 08:20 by Spoony81.



Date: 02/21/17 07:32
Re: Chicago Missouri and Northwestern
Author: rrpreservation

Great Shots!!

Thank you for shring them.



Date: 02/24/17 12:14
Re: Chicago Missouri and Northwestern
Author: NebraskaZephyr

dcfbalcoS1 Wrote:
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>      And apparently because they put the 'N'
> in the initials, some revenue and interchange
> traffic went instead to the CNW.

​In the eighties there was an effort by the AAR to make new reporting marks four letters to completely fill that data input field on most car tracking software, which also did not know how to interpret and process an ampersand (&).

​Since the CM&W could not BE "CM&W", somebody got cute and turned the "&" into a "N"...think "CM n' W", like "bicuits n' gravy."

​Yes, I could see where some clerks would get confused with CNW (Chicago & North Western) and CMNW, perhaps *assuming* it was written down wrong.

​This was not a new problem, even in pre-coumputer days: NYC subsidiary Peoria & Eastern often found its cars confused with those of Pacific Electric, there was even a large notation in the P​&E's ORER listing reminding billing clerks not to do this. When computer car tracking became more prevalent, Peoria & Eastern went to reporting mark "PAE" to separate itself from the PE.

NZ



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