Nostalgia & History > Eastbound Pacific Limited - Photo help needed

RC Brown labeled this print "Eastbound Pacific Limited, bound for Chicago. Auburn, Calif., Sept, 1943. It was pretty washed out, so bad that I originally didn't see the second locomotive - I was hoping any of you photo magicians might offer further advice? I don't know how to, or if even possible, to brighten up the face of the lead loco without washing the rest of the pic out again...?  Same with the road locomotive - darken it to see it better, the face of the helper blackens too much...  maybe I should leave well enough alone?

Thanks in advance

Walter
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/23/17 05:41 by drumwrencher.

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Here's a try.  I made it into a monochrome.  I then lightened the dark areas and darkened the light areas.  I sharpened it as much as to would take and took out some noise.  The scan has lots of dirt specks and I removed the worst ones with the speck remover.

Marty Bernard

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I wonder if this is the last section of train 22, the eastbound "Pacific Limited"?  Trains 87 & 88 "The Challenger" clearly regularly ran in multiple sections during WW2.  Did the "Pacific Limited" also often run in multiple sections during WW2?

I've seen photos of double-headed cab-forwards on "The Owl" over Tehachapi.  On Donner Pass, all the other photos I've seen of double-headed eastbound passenger trains have 2-8-0s or 4-8-2s (maybe also some 2-10-2s) as the point helper.

- Doug Debs

 In 1943 the SP showed the section number of all trains in the indicators when the schedule ran in sections. Later the rules changed and the final section only displayed the schedule number without a section number showing.

DWDebs/2472 Wrote:
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> I wonder if this is the last section of train 22,
> the eastbound "Pacific Limited"?  Trains 87 & 88
> "The Challenger" clearly regularly ran in multiple
> sections during WW2.  Did the "Pacific Limited"
> also often run in multiple sections during WW2?
>
> I've seen photos of double-headed cab-forwards on
> "The Owl" over Tehachapi.  On Donner Pass, all
> the other photos I've seen of double-headed
> eastbound passenger trains have 2-8-0s or 4-8-2s
> (maybe also some 2-10-2s) as the point helper.
>
> - Doug Debs

Doug, I wonder if you can post the date that change occured?  TIA, AA

Stanford White
Carmel Valley, CA

This is the only section of No. 22.

The 1951 rulebook changed the practice where the last of multiple sections displayed only the train number.

During the War, the Challenger, trains No. 87 and 88, was the train that usually ran in multiple sections.

DWDebs/2472 Wrote:
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> I wonder if this is the last section of train 22,
> the eastbound "Pacific Limited"?  Trains 87 & 88
> "The Challenger" clearly regularly ran in multiple
> sections during WW2.  Did the "Pacific Limited"
> also often run in multiple sections during WW2?
>
> I've seen photos of double-headed cab-forwards on
> "The Owl" over Tehachapi.  On Donner Pass, all
> the other photos I've seen of double-headed
> eastbound passenger trains have 2-8-0s or 4-8-2s
> (maybe also some 2-10-2s) as the point helper.
>
> - Doug Debs

This is RC Brown's photo of the eastbound passenger trains out of Auburn, dated April 31, 1946. Looks like train numbers were changed after the war, or Mr. Brown got the name/date wrong on the 1943 photo?
I'm sure others can better explain it than I can.

​Walter



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/24/17 05:22 by drumwrencher.

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