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Nostalgia & History > Another PE Oldie but MoldieDate: 07/28/04 19:29 Another PE Oldie but Moldie Author: BNSFhogger Date: 07/28/04 20:27 Re: Another PE Oldie but Moldie Author: stash Amoco was a station on the 4-track LA-Watts line. Photos show the interlocking tower atop a signal bridge. Junction with the Santa Monica Air Line.
LA folks: passenger service still ran in 1948, right? At least Watts-Sierra Vista trains, I'd guess. Date: 07/28/04 21:39 Re: Another PE Oldie but Moldie Author: Ed_Gyptian Watts lasted until the end. Sierra Vista was pulled with the rest of the Northern District in 52.
Date: 07/28/04 22:02 Re: Another PE Oldie but Moldie Author: DNRY122 PE motor 1625 was scrapped around 1956, but 1624 is preserved at Orange Empire Ry Museum. 1619 through 1631 were built by PE in their Torrance shops in the mid 1920's. Couldn't read the number on the PE homebrew flat-top caboose, but it's one of the 1960 series, and OERM has one of those, too. Passenger service (LA to Long Beach) quit in April 1961, returned in July 1990 in the form of Blue Line light rail. Three-car trains were a rush-hour-only sight in the PE days, now Metro runs three-car trains all day long. They even have two light-rail units painted in the 1940 PE color scheme!
Date: 07/29/04 10:18 Re: Another PE Oldie but Moldie Author: espeeboy (Stash and others - a reply from "espeedad" - a big P.E. nut)
~~~ Ryan, Please forward this to "Stash". To the best of my recollection, most of the "Southern Corridor" lines were still in service back in 1948. In addition to the Watts Local, passenger service still branched out from the Watts junction to: Long Beach Santa Ana Wilmington/San Pedro There was also freight service on a portion of the old Newport Beach line (which branched off the Long Beach line just north of PCH as well as the line to El Segundo (Standard Oil refinery) and the branch line near Western Ave. down to Torrance. When the PE was sold to Metropolitan Coach Lines (MCL) in the early 50's, passenger service to Santa Ana was cut back to Bellflower & passenger service to Wilmington & San Pedro was discontinued. With the formation of the Metropolitan Transit Authority in 1958, passenger service to Bellflower was discontinued. Finally, the remaining passenger service on the Southern Corridor (Watts Local and the Long Beach line) was discontinued in 1961. I would like more info. on how SP obtained (or retained??) freight service on the old PE right-of-ways. I know that SP owned PE, but I don't know the details on the sale of passenger service to MCL. Did SP retain right-of-way ownership? Talk about your street running, I recall seeing SP switchers running down the center of Santa Monica Blvd. all the way to the Lumber Yard and Union Ice facility just east of Highland Ave. in Hollywood back in the early 1970's. That was the eastern terminus of the switching activity on what was originally the double track passenger line to Santa Monica from downtown LA built the Los Angeles and Pacific Railway before the formation of the "New PE" in 1911. Take care, Dad Date: 07/29/04 19:09 Re: Another PE Oldie but Moldie Author: spdetector The place where Florence Av. crossed the Four Tracks was one of my favorite places as a kid. The crossing was still flagged by guys who stayed in a small shed between trains. Most of the time when we approached the crossing there would be at least some big multi car interurbans rocketing by with their horns screeching and doing those weird breaks. But, the jackpot was pulling to a stop for a freight pulled by several juice jacks with their huge bells swinging. My mother would sigh and I'd just grin and take it all in as the trains slowly pulled by. Every so often they'd be overtaken by several Blimps tearing along. The through trains really "carried the mail" over that section, kicking up all kinds of dust and trash.
Date: 08/01/04 17:03 Re: Another PE Oldie but Moldie Author: lboyd Ahh yes, Santa Monica Blvd in the south east corner of Hollywood. It was fun to amuse (scare?) my girlfriend by positioning my '53 Chevy panel truck on the rails and setting the (factory!) hand throttle, sitting back and folding my arms. It would even ride through thr switches fairly well.
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