European Railroad Discussion > DB - 1972 - steam

I was an intern/student in 1972 in Hamburg, Germany. Deutsches Bundesbahn still had some substantial steam operations in Hamburg. I would go to their yard in southeast Hamburg, on the line to Berlin, where they seemed to keep all the steam operations. I was able to take pictures relatively freely, although I went to the roundhouse only once. From various bridges and roads I watched their operations. I will scan a series of B-W images at some future date. Today I place up color slides, which I scanned recently. Please fill in and edit my info, as it is likely incomplete, or I cannot read my slide well.

Slides 1-3 are at Hamburg-Altona, where a daily Hamburg-Berlin train originated. It used a Deutsches Reichsbahn 4-6-2 for the run to Berlin.

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4 - 6 are class 012 and are taken in Berlin.

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#7 is 023 class 2-6-2
#8 is in Hamburg with a typical steam train with an #050 class 2-10-0
#9 is a turntable shot of an 051

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10-12 are an 051 class loco accelerating his train out of the yard running backwards!

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13: coaling tower
14: 051 class loco 2-10-0; stack capped
15: deadline shot; the stacks are all capped, indicating they might be recalled to service



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/25/14 14:08 by MEKoch.

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16-18 are trains departing the yard in southeast Hamburg

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Interesting, that 2-10-0 has a doghouse on the tender. First one I have on europe engines.

Beautiful! I love the skyline casings on the Class 01.5. Quite possibly my favorite German steam locmotive. And a few are still operational!

One note: since "Bahn" is a feminine noun, it's "Deutsche Bundesbahn" and "Deutsche Reichsbahn" (no "s" on the end of "Deutsche").

Thanks again for posting!

19: 052 class 2-10-0; stack capped
20: 051 class awaiting his train
21: roundhouse haze on a winter's day



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/25/14 14:19 by MEKoch.

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22: a steam passenger train departing Hamburg-Altona for a local run; I rarely saw this happen.
23: the train departs
24: a steam train in Trier, Germany

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Tomorrow I will do the diesels........

tomstp Wrote:
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> Interesting, that 2-10-0 has a doghouse on the
> tender. First one I have on europe engines.

See here for a better view: http://www.bahnalltag.de/50er-bahngeschehen/page-0117.html

Interesting photos. Thanks for posting.

I´m curios for your diesels. One interesting one is seen on pic 22. It is nicknamed Eierkopf - egghead - corresponding to its shape.

Please check pic 8, i´m sure it is not Hamburg because it is an East Germany machine and freights were nor running so deep in the west.

Erwin from Austria

Were DB and DR pooling locomotives between Hamburg and Berlin in both freight and passenger service?

I love German steam pictures, just made to Hamburg in 1972, the last year the heavy three cylinder pacifics (BR 012) there still running to Westerland, sometimes double headed., nice and interesting shots!

Thomas Eckhardt

http://tewe.borail.net

The pictures are just fantastic, many thanks!

lynnpowell Wrote:
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> Were DB and DR pooling locomotives between Hamburg
> and Berlin in both freight and passenger service?


An interesting question. There certainly was an extraordinary degree of cooperation between DB and DR before the wall came down, with DR running all rail services in West Berlin, and a number of through trains which took western equipment (sleepers and diners) through to he East. There was also an agreement not to use the same class numbers for loco types, but to conform to the same system. Finally, in the 1980s there was a large amount of freight rolling stock sold from the West to the East on condition that all identifiers were removed! I certainly thought that locos were changed at the borders, though.

Here is the Hamburg train waiting to leave Berlin Zoo (ie West Berlin) behind a DR class 01 in summer 1975. Travelling the same day from Berlin to Hook pf Holland we saw only DR locos in the East and DB locos in the West.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/26/14 04:20 by spflow.

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When the German Federal applied computer numbers to the Class 50's there were still over a thousand of them around, numbered from 001 up to [ at least ] 3171. Since the computer system only allowed a three digit running number, the 50's became 050, 051, 052, and 053 classes -- so there really was no "051 class" etc per se. Hope that helps.

Best, SZ