European Railroad Discussion > Portugal: EMU Recognition Help Needed

I got an interesting set of pictures from Portugal, but it looks like these are very hard to recognize to detail. EMUs might be of class 3150, 3200 or 3250, but which?

Thank you for any recognition help and info leading forward!

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Are they a Budd licensee or spin-off ? They look like PATCO cars with a British shell.

McKey Wrote:
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> I got an interesting set of pictures from
> Portugal, but it looks like these are very hard to
> recognize to detail. EMUs might be of class 3150,
> 3200 or 3250, but which?
>
> Thank you for any recognition help and info
> leading forward!

They look like 3250, the 3150 has smooth sides not fluted like these. the 3200s were rebuilt to 3250s.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/02/15 12:16 by SOO6617.

Thank you SOO, again! Your help and expertise are much appreciated!

joemvcnj Wrote:
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> Are they a Budd licensee or spin-off ? They look
> like PATCO cars with a British shell.


Yes built by Sorefame a Budd licensee, now a part of Alstom.

This is an interesting find! Here is a throw of maybe another Budd design: http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?17,3621292

MW4man Wrote:
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> joemvcnj Wrote:
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> > Are they a Budd licensee or spin-off ? They
> look
> > like PATCO cars with a British shell.
>
>
> Yes built by Sorefame a Budd licensee, now a part
> of Alstom.

Now those look like SEPTA's old Market-Frankford / Almond Joy cars without the lumps.

Not sure about the RIB cars but these were definitely Budd cars used by the SNCF:

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?17,2276713



McKey Wrote:
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> This is an interesting find! Here is a throw of
> maybe another Budd design:

> http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?17,
> 3621292
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> MW4man Wrote:
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> > joemvcnj Wrote:
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> > -----
> > > Are they a Budd licensee or spin-off ? They
> > look
> > > like PATCO cars with a British shell.
> >
> >
> > Yes built by Sorefame a Budd licensee, now a
> part
> > of Alstom.

How stylish pictures from our friend eminence_grise!

MW4man Wrote:
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> Not sure about the RIB cars but these were
> definitely Budd cars used by the SNCF:
>
> http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?17,
> 2276713
>