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Date: 07/24/15 12:02
Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: Stas

This is not a hot news, but only now I got time to go and see VR's latest acquisition - double deck restaurant coach. Here is my walk around.

 








Date: 07/24/15 12:08
Re: Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: Stas

2. After entering you get to kiosk, stairway to the upper deck and to the restaurant.
 








Date: 07/24/15 12:10
Re: Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: Stas

1. Actually, this is how you see the restaurant at first.








Date: 07/24/15 12:11
Re: Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: Stas

1. This is small elevated compartment.
2. Stairwat to the upper deck.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/24/15 12:12 by Stas.






Date: 07/24/15 12:16
Re: Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: Stas

Upper deck called conference comparment.
 








Date: 07/24/15 12:17
Re: Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: Stas

A little bit strange arrangement of the seats at the left.
 








Date: 07/24/15 12:18
Re: Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: Stas

That's all.




Date: 07/24/15 18:21
Re: Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: GPutz

Kiitos, Stas.  I note that it's going to Turku harbor to meet the ferries to/from Stockholm.  Gerry



Date: 07/25/15 01:50
Re: Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: mundo

Thanks for posting such fine detail photos.



Date: 07/25/15 06:34
Re: Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: PHall

Not much of a "restaurant", more like a "cafe".



Date: 07/25/15 07:08
Re: Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: robert162

Those chairs facing the windows look tight for leg room or camera angle makes it decieving.



Date: 07/25/15 07:43
Re: Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: Stas

Rather minimum physiological necessary space for legs.

 



Date: 07/25/15 09:00
Re: Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: gaspeamtrak

Thanks for sharing! Great pictures. Way to VR...



Date: 07/25/15 10:34
Re: Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: ironmtn

The single seats appear to be of a similar concept to the old parlor car designs of the past in North America, but with much less legroom apparently when facing the window due to the aisle offset to the left as needed by the double seats on the right. North American parlor seats in the past were one and one on each side of the center aisle, affording plenty of legroom in any position in the rotating chair. Do the seats rotate on that large, round pedestal, as North American parlor car seats did in the past? Also, is a first class fare required, again as for US and Canadian parlor seats in the past?

Thanks for these fine, detailed images. Overall, I like the design and decor - bright, light, crisp and inviting. The overall design is not unlike Amtrak's Superliner Sightseer Lounge bi-level cars here in the United States, although they are "straight floor" designs without the raised sections at car ends. Many of us here on TO have spent a lot of hours in those Sightseer Lounge cars, seated in one of the fixed single or paired seats facing outward for a great view through the big, oversized windows. A fine way to watch the passing countryside.

MC
Columbia, Missouri USA

 



Date: 07/27/15 05:49
Re: Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: marku51

Thanks for the photos. Are these going to become a regular feature on the trains? I'm in Finland in two weeks to visit and I'd be interested to see these. Usually we travel in the family area when there is one, but the trip from Helsinki to Turku is long enough to have a meal and this looks pretty neat.



Date: 07/27/15 11:26
Re: Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: sums007

Interesting advertising placard in English, too:  "All day breakfast......."



Date: 07/27/15 18:48
Re: Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: tq-07fan

I like the graphics with the bears. The whole car looks really good, inside and out.

Jim



Date: 08/02/15 13:56
Re: Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: McKey

That is right! Having tried these, the seats can also be turned, so you can easily arrange more leg room and talk with the guy working next to you, and turn your back to the other side.

robert162 Wrote:
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> Those chairs facing the windows look tight for leg
> room or camera angle makes it decieving.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/02/15 13:56 by McKey.



Date: 08/02/15 14:00
Re: Finland: ERd - double deck restaurant coach
Author: McKey

Welcome to Finland Markku! I've seen these cars even on the Turku - Helsinki trains, but there is of course no quarantee there would not be an older restaurant coach instead. They however have their interesting atmostphere too!

marku51 Wrote:
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> Thanks for the photos. Are these going to become a
> regular feature on the trains? I'm in Finland in
> two weeks to visit and I'd be interested to see
> these. Usually we travel in the family area when
> there is one, but the trip from Helsinki to Turku
> is long enough to have a meal and this looks
> pretty neat.



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