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Date: 07/24/16 06:41
Ireland Killorglin to Cahersiveen
Author: trkinsptr

I drove through this area last week.What a spectacular rail line this was (abandoned 1960)! Anybody have photos? We drove the ring of Kerry,Valentia island and the Skellig ring roads and survived! CJ

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Date: 07/26/16 07:55
Re: Ireland Killorglin to Cahersiveen
Author: Latebeans

Here is a Youtube video about the line.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_SMOfsQO3w



Date: 07/26/16 17:40
Re: Ireland Killorglin to Cahersiveen
Author: trkinsptr

Late beans,I tried YouTube but it said "video not found" CJ

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Date: 07/26/16 19:36
Re: Ireland Killorglin to Cahersiveen
Author: Latebeans

I just used a a youtube search for Killorglin to Cahersiveen railway to find it the first time

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Date: 07/27/16 10:59
Re: Ireland Killorglin to Cahersiveen
Author: trkinsptr

Thanks late beans,I found it. CJ

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Date: 07/31/16 07:41
Re: Ireland Killorglin to Cahersiveen
Author: kevink

The British military completed extensive mapping of all of Ireland including the railways. This mapping is available online at: http://www.osi.ie/
You can go directly to the Drung Hill to Cahersiveen section here: http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,455566,584347,7,9 
The controls are a bit clunky but you can pan in any direction and zoom in and out. Here's the ISU survey map for Cahersiveen: http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,446989,579760,12,9
The Ring of Kerry Road passes the Gleensk viaduct: http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,458068,588604,12,9
The National Library of Ireland Flickr stream occasionally includes railways. Here's one from https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/6754025417/in/faves-33710285@N08/

I've travelled the Ring three times and can't wait to get back for another visit.
 



Date: 07/31/16 09:15
Re: Ireland Killorglin to Cahersiveen
Author: spflow

kevink Wrote:
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> The British military completed extensive mapping
> of all of Ireland including the railways. This
> mapping is available online
> at: http://www.osi.ie/


I don't think it was the "British Military" who produced the current OS maps in either UK or Eire!

You are correct that the original Ordnance Survey was a military affair (hence the name) started in 1745 to produce surveys of some bits of Scotland as part of the military subjugation of the Jacobite rebellion. Mapping attention later turned to southern England  during the early nineteenth century in response to concerns about a possible French invasion. By 1870 the whole UK Ordance survey was under civilian government control, and all maps were freely purchasable. In 1922 Ireland was partitioned, with the south becoming a separate republic. Two new Irish OS organisations were formed in the North and the South. Interestingly the OSI (to which you gave a link) not only was had exclusively military staff until the 1970s, but remains almost identical in its products and style to the UK equivalent.

All this is just a long way of saying that OS maps of Ireland are not military, but are very similar to those in the UK (and very good!)



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Date: 07/31/16 10:46
Re: Ireland Killorglin to Cahersiveen
Author: kevink

spflow Wrote:
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> All this is just a long way of saying that OS maps
> of Ireland are not military, but are very similar
> to those in the UK (and very good!)

Thanks for the clarification and I agree these maps are very good. They have been great for researching familiy history as well.



Date: 08/01/16 07:05
Re: Ireland Killorglin to Cahersiveen
Author: 86235

spflow Wrote:
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> kevink Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The British military completed extensive
> mapping
> > of all of Ireland including the railways. This
> > mapping is available online
> > at: http://www.osi.ie/
>
>
> I don't think it was the "British Military" who
> produced the current OS maps in either UK or
> Eire!
>
> You are correct that the original Ordnance Survey
> was a military affair (hence the name) started in
> 1745 to produce surveys of some bits of Scotland
> as part of the military subjugation of the
> Jacobite rebellion. Mapping attention later turned
> to southern England  during the early nineteenth
> century in response to concerns about a possible
> French invasion. By 1870 the whole UK Ordance
> survey was under civilian government control, and
> all maps were freely purchasable. In 1922 Ireland
> was partitioned, with the south becoming a
> separate republic. Two new Irish OS organisations
> were formed in the North and the South.
> Interestingly the OSI (to which you gave a link)
> not only was had exclusively military staff until
> the 1970s, but remains almost identical in its
> products and style to the UK equivalent.
>
> All this is just a long way of saying that OS maps
> of Ireland are not military, but are very similar
> to those in the UK (and very good!)

Great summary of the history of the Ordnance Survey. Royal Engineer officers did lead the teams of surveyors who mapped Ireland between 1824 and 1846. They mapped to an astonishing degree of accuracy.

I've a large collection of modern (post 1975) OS, OSNI and OSi maps. One feature of the most recent OSi maps which I really like is that they show mileage on railways, presumably based on mileposts.



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