Eastern Railroad Discussion > CSX Detours continue

As of Thursday morning, CSX is continuing to run some priority freights to North Jersey along Susquehanna's route from Syracuse, NY to the connection at CP3 at North Bergen, NJ back to home rails. Today's freights are Q156 and Q004, both eastbound. Apparently, congestion at Selkirk Yard and on the River Line continues, which is actually great news for CSX. NYS&W's line provides a safety valve for CSX and, if necessary, NS also. They both have a financial interest in NYS&W, but I'm not sure of the percentage of each.

steamertony Wrote:
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> As of Thursday morning, CSX is continuing to run
> some priority freights to North Jersey along
> Susquehanna's route from Syracuse, NY to the
> connection at CP3 at North Bergen, NJ back to home
> rails. Today's freights are Q156 and Q004, both
> eastbound. Apparently, congestion at Selkirk Yard
> and on the River Line continues, which is actually
> great news for CSX. NYS&W's line provides a safety
> valve for CSX and, if necessary, NS also. They
> both have a financial interest in NYS&W, but I'm
> not sure of the percentage of each.

NS and CSX have equal stakes in the NYS&W, however the Delaware Otsego Corporation holds the controlling stake.

Here's the Q 004 at Newfoundland, NJ today.

rfprr

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Nice catch. I'm allergic to the foreground but not the background!

By River line, if that implies along Hudson -- does not appear that busy.

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John R -- CP Spring
Carlisle, PA

steamfan Wrote:
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> By River line, if that implies along Hudson --
> does not appear that busy.
>

The number of trains getting through may not be the problem, but rather the number that aren't. If Selkirk is starting to jam up the way Stanley is over here in Toledo, the problem is trains being held out of the yard, and tying up sidings/second main from those positions. And when the number of potential places to meet trains diminishes, that forces consideration of using alternative routes (if available).

seems like more oil empties than normal are operating via Baltimore

twl

4 trains in 5 plus hours seems sparse. Just an observation, perhaps not the norm...

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John R -- CP Spring
Carlisle, PA

steamfan Wrote:
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> By River line, if that implies along Hudson --
> does not appear that busy.
>
> Posted from Android

Riverline yes along the Hudson is quite busy measured historically, but not beyond its capacity. There was a small derailment in Selkirk that caused quite a jam in the yard. So some priority trains that don't do work in Selkirk ie q156 and q004 have been using the Squeak relief valve. There has also been at least one w/b in this case q710 trash train. I wish it was purely from congestion on the riverline, the insinuation that the detours continue indefinitely.

Being that the River Subdivision is single track as well, even though traffic isn't off the charts in a 24 hour period, it has the potential to become a logjam much more easily. I imagine crew shortages could be a big culprit as well.