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Eastern Railroad Discussion > ID Calling on non-signalled territory?Date: 03/26/15 21:35 ID Calling on non-signalled territory? Author: msullivan1993 Is there a general plan of operation for trains operating on non-signaled territory as far as calling out locations for any reason? I.E. I was working in Beckley, WV this past weekend, and the location where I was at was just over the hill from the NS Princeton-Deepwater District, which is non-signaled from Maben, WV north, and while in the truck on the way to the location, I happened to hear an ID on the road channel call out a milepost. Didn't get a specific ID or milepost, but I know I was way too far away for it to be any sort of signal. Is this typical in non-signaled territory or was this one of those rare occurrences?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/26/15 21:38 by msullivan1993. Date: 03/26/15 21:57 Re: ID Calling on non-signalled territory? Author: CO3124 msullivan1993 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Is there a general plan of operation for trains > operating on non-signaled territory as far as > calling out locations for any reason? I.E. I was > working in Beckley, WV this past weekend, and the > location where I was at was just over the hill > from the NS Princeton-Deepwater District, which is > non-signaled from Maben, WV north, and while in > the truck on the way to the location, I happened > to hear an ID on the road channel call out a > milepost. Didn't get a specific ID or milepost, > but I know I was way too far away for it to be any > sort of signal. Is this typical in non-signaled > territory or was this one of those rare > occurrences? Mike, it's not a new thing for me to hear that on NS as they do that over on the Secondary as well. I think it's usually the first location, whether it be a milepost or station name, that the train gets to after getting a track warrant. Dennis Date: 03/26/15 22:40 Re: ID Calling on non-signalled territory? Author: Out_Of_Service CO3124 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > msullivan1993 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Is there a general plan of operation for trains > > operating on non-signaled territory as far as > > calling out locations for any reason? I.E. I > was > > working in Beckley, WV this past weekend, and > the > > location where I was at was just over the hill > > from the NS Princeton-Deepwater District, which > is > > non-signaled from Maben, WV north, and while in > > the truck on the way to the location, I > happened > > to hear an ID on the road channel call out a > > milepost. Didn't get a specific ID or > milepost, > > but I know I was way too far away for it to be > any > > sort of signal. Is this typical in > non-signaled > > territory or was this one of those rare > > occurrences? > > > Mike, it's not a new thing for me to hear that on > NS as they do that over on the Secondary as well. > I think it's usually the first location, whether > it be a milepost or station name, that the train > gets to after getting a track warrant. > > Dennis or just the opposite ... the crew calling out their location to inform the dispatcher that tbey're approaching the interlocking and getting close to the home signal ... Posted from Android Date: 03/26/15 22:57 Re: ID Calling on non-signalled territory? Author: WrongMain You might not have heard the entire transmission. It's possible that they were talking to a MOW person who was looking for track time behind them or they might have been approaching his work limits and were letting him know their location.
Date: 03/26/15 23:15 Re: ID Calling on non-signalled territory? Author: SD45X Out west, GCOR has you call out ID and Speed two miles in advance of a meeting point.
Date: 03/26/15 23:57 Re: ID Calling on non-signalled territory? Author: 1976 On NS, trains are to announce the passing of all station signs in dark territory.
Date: 03/27/15 06:58 Re: ID Calling on non-signalled territory? Author: rbmn5022 1976 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > On NS, trains are to announce the passing of all > station signs in dark territory. I believe NORAC rules require the same. Now whether that actually happens in practice is another matter. Posted from iPhone Date: 03/27/15 08:53 Re: ID Calling on non-signalled territory? Author: fwwr5007 KCS requires an ID, direction and speed call-out on the radio at any designated "control point" (usually each end of a siding, junctions, and certain other points) in dark territory.
Posted from iPhone Date: 03/27/15 09:03 Re: ID Calling on non-signalled territory? Author: strench707 On the Popes Creek Subdivision (CSX, ex-CR) near me, trains are required to call the old CR block signs as they pass them. "CSX B80423, is south on the main with EC-1 authority by PRINCE, QP 13.6, CSXT 3105 out." That's the full speech, many go for something more abbreviated: "B806 north on the secondary, WINE, out." And I'm sure some don't call them at all, because who is really listening?
Date: 03/27/15 09:49 Re: ID Calling on non-signalled territory? Author: trkspd KCS also has to say "Cab focus communication in effect" on the radio too when calling out approach signals, but I've never hear anyone say that. I do sometimes just to see if any KCS crews say something over the radio.
Posted from Android DG . Unknown, US Date: 03/27/15 16:53 Re: ID Calling on non-signalled territory? Author: nsrlink 1976 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > On NS, trains are to announce the passing of all > station signs in dark territory. Ding Ding Ding. We have a winner. |