Eastern Railroad Discussion > VTR gets SD70M-2's

Posted on Trains news wire, VTR will get 2 ex FEC SD70M-2's to become VTR #431 and #432.  Good news for railfans and  modelers.

That's some interseting news. I wonder if they will repaint them.

Nolan Majcher
Broadview Heights, OH
Nolan Majcher Photography

What I have read, from a person well connected with VRS, is they'll enter service patched but be repainted fairly soon.

P&W is getting two of them also, and supposedly they'll repaint theirs right away.

The downside is that VRS will trade 5 GP40s for its two, and four of the five are painted in VRS family schemes, including all three of the Green Mountain units.

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Do you know if the P & W is getting 2  R W & B units ?

Ed Stewart
Jacksonville, FL

Will the 5 GP 40's be going to the FEC.
 

calsubd Wrote:
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> Do you know if the P & W is getting 2  R W & B
> units ?

no, the P&W units will be the blue and yellow units.

Bryan Jones
Brooks, KY
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Dewman45 Wrote:
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> Will the 5 GP 40's be going to the FEC.
>  

no, FEC gets nothing out of this deal. They did not own the SD70M-2's, they were leased. The SD70M-2's were owned by FURX. Vermont Railway and P&W purchased the units from FURX. In turn Vermont Railway sold 5 GP40's to GATX and those will most likely be rebuilt to GP38-2 specs and become GMTX lease units when all is said and done.

Bryan Jones
Brooks, KY
Bryan's Train Photos

Thanks Mr. Jones, on my Model RR they will be patched R W & B I guess,

Ed Stewart
Jacksonville, FL

What is the reason behind this???? Five good geeps
for 2 SD ??? Wonder how the rail will hold up to this
weight increase ??????

 

LandN1971 Wrote:
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> What is the reason behind this???? Five good
> geeps
> for 2 SD ??? Wonder how the rail will hold up to
> this
> weight increase ??????

VRS leased some CEFX SD70M-types 15 years ago and as far as I know, the railroad didn't fall apart.

I'd have preferred that they got rid of the leasers on the property instead of shipping these out, but apparently the rationale is that the GP40s are the oldest and thirstiest locomotives on the railroad.

The Blue and white 140 141 and 142 were CITX leased by FEC.

Is the Vermont GP40 301 included in this deal? That is ex-West Point Route 701, which was a locomotive that I saw on the Georgia Railroad many times in my youth back in the '70's and early '80's.

Jay

Dewman45 Wrote:
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> Will the 5 GP 40's be going to the FEC.

Note that the FEC EMD leased SD70M-2s were replaced by a fleet of even newer GE GEVOs. No need for them to "swap out for GP40s."

I guess this made the "interesting discussions" list to exhibit just how obscure some of the discussions get on this site.  I've read through it twice and this is what I've come up with: some locomotives are going to be swapped around; it's occuring in the east; this is a private discussion (in a public forum) by people "in the know".

garr Wrote:
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> Is the Vermont GP40 301 included in this deal?
> That is ex-West Point Route 701, which was a
> locomotive that I saw on the Georgia Railroad many
> times in my youth back in the '70's and early
> '80's.

Yes, the 301 will be leaving VRS property.
 

Pardon me,
But you've obviously mistaken me for somebody that gives a XXXXXXXX!
( fill-in the expletive...with your favorite  choices..).

Wes C.

There's a lot of jargon in some of the posts.  R-W-B refers to the red white and blue scheme that Rail America applied to the SD70M units which ended up in the Florida East Coast.  Other units were in an Alaska Railroad look alike scheme of blue and yellow, and I believe these came in during the Fortress Investment ownership.

The current Vermont Railroad units which will be traded away are painted in several of their (VTR's) heritage paint schemes

ETA: P&W refers to the Providence & Worcester a regional railroad which has acquired several unit tank train routes etc.  I believe P&W arose when the PennCentral blew off some debt or interest payments and the creditors seized the railroad from them.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/04/15 13:36 by Lackawanna484.