Model Railroading > Daylight train from BLI/PCM

Sound the trumpet!


BLI / PCM has announced the following locomotives releases.
The SP Daylight 4-8-4 is included in this listing, List price 449.99.
Also included is the SP Passenger Cars with my prices included (m/P) See below

SP GS-4 Northern 4-8-4 1/25/07 DEADLINE SUMMER '07 DELIVERY
Sound $449.99 m/p $334.50 No Sound $379.99
_____294 _____ 297 #4452 Daylight (Train #1)
_____ 295 _____ 298 #4449 Daylight (Train #2)
_____ 296 _____ 299 #4449 American Freedom Train
_____ 289 Sound upgrade kit (Decoder & Speakers

SP Daylight Passenger Cars 1/25/07 DEADLINE SUMMER '07 DELIVERY MSRP
_____ 680 Baggage-Chair #3302 w/antennae $69.99
_____ 681 Articulated ChairW #2462/Chair M #2461 w/antenna $129.99
_____ 682 Articulated Chair W #2474/Chair M #2473 w/antenna $129.99
_____ 683 Chair #2485 $69.99
_____ 684 Parlor #3002 $69.99
_____ 685 Parlor Obs #2954 w/antenna $89.99
_____ 686 Articulated Coffee shop #10258/Kitchen #10257/Diner #10256 $189.99
_____ 687 Tavern #10314 w/antenna $74.99
_____ 688 Articulated Chair W #2458/Chair M #2457 $129.99
_____ 689 Articulated Chair W #2460/Chair M #2459 $129.99
_____ 690 Baggage-Chair #3303 $69.99
_____ 691 Articulated Chair W #2470/Chair M #2469 $129.99
_____ 692 Articulated Chair W #2476/Chair M #2475 $129.99
_____ 693 Chair #2486 $69.99
_____ 694 Parlor #3003 $69.99
_____ 695 Parlor Obs #2955 $89.99
_____ 696 Articulated Coffee shop #10261/Kitchen #10260/Diner #10259 $189.99
_____ 697 Tavern #10315 w/antenna $74.99
_____ 698 Articulated Chair W #2466/Chair M #2465 $ 129.99
_____ 699 Articulated Chair W #2468/Chair M #2467 $129.99

WOWO! That is a monster announcement. After BLI's precedent setting CZ passenger cars produced over the last year, I am totally stoked over this announcement! We Espee fans young and old are gonna dig deep for these cars.

Guess they beat another company to the punch. That other company will be left over with doing this passenger trainset in N scale I guess...

Insane.. geeze.. just when I thought I'd give my pocketbook a rest. I look forward to the preproduction photos.

Cheers,
Harry

We'll see if the cars even look like the prototype..

WAF Wrote:
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> We'll see if the cars even look like the
> prototype..


Geez, it's a bit early in the game to be so negative, don't you think? I'll be curious to see how well they look, but based on the quality and accuracy of the Califormia Zephyr cars, these should be very, very nice. Based on that alone, I think they've earned the benefit of a doubt.

Elizabeth

Questions.....

1. What scale? (PCM does both N and HO)

2. Where did you get you information from? There is nothing on either the BLI or PCM websites?

3. It appears that the cars have different stock numbers. Are they doing different era trains? If so, which ones?

Charles

AAhhhhh Sh@#$$, this way to the poor house. It has never been this good before in this hobby before and one more thing that comes out that I just have to have and I may go crazy. Let see now I need to order a set of the PA's and I already have the E's thank God.

Andre

If you think my comment is negative, go over to the Yahoo SP Railroad List and read what they will say when the cars come out or if pictures are shown what the cars are supposed to look at. If one thing is out of place or the paint isn't the correct shade or red or orange, they will holler " it isn't prototype of SP" and then slam the product because it wasn't. Now, that's negative.. I'm sure BLI will do the best job they can, but....

Couldn't they knock a few bucks off and price it at $444.90? $130 to $80 a pop for the cars? I shoulda bought brass 20 years ago! of course, I couldn't afford brass then either. Still, save those nickles, save those dimes, giddiup, giddiup 4449!

Let's see. When Soho came out with the SP cars in the late 70s, they were about $150 ea or so. Yes, inflation!

stivmac Wrote:
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Still, save
> those nickles, save those dimes, giddiup, giddiup
> 4449!

Save a nickle, save a dime. Lower prices, every time, Go see Cal!

J.

My checkbook is giving me the evil eye now ...


TCS - maybe I can sell PE my new truck ..... not.

This is something I'll definetly have to buy, time to work more overtime or sell off a motorcycle of mine.

Frank

tracktime Wrote:
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> Insane.. geeze.. just when I thought I'd give my
> pocketbook a rest. I look forward to the
> preproduction photos.
>
> Cheers,
> Harry

The car prices are not that bad considering many of them are articulated. Bachmann's old tooling is not that bad on the GS4 even rivaling early brass models of the same engine. We shall see.

The best Daylight train ever built in my opinion was the Challenger Imports (RIP) two versions they did about two years before they closed there doors. They did the skirted and deskirted (1950s) version. The cars were $300. dollars each. If I were BLI, I would strive to match these cars and I personally think they will. They proved they can do a great job on the Zephyr cars. Even with small problems as windows not being flush and such, they are great models for a decent price in comparison. I may be wrong, but hope I'm not.

J.Ferris Wrote:
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> stivmac Wrote:
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>
> Still, save
> > those nickles, save those dimes, giddiup,
> giddiup
> > 4449!
>
> Save a nickle, save a dime. Lower prices, every
> time, Go see Cal!
>
> J.


or...

Save a nickle, save a dime. Save a penny, save some time! Go see Cal, go see Cal, go see Cal!

And extra points if you know his last name and what brand.

> Save a nickle, save a dime. Save a penny, save
> some time! Go see Cal, go see Cal, go see Cal!
>
> And extra points if you know his last name and
> what brand.

Cal Worthington and if I rember right it was both Ford and Dodge.

Andre

dmaffei Wrote:
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> The best Daylight train ever built in my opinion
> was the Challenger Imports (RIP) two versions they
> did about two years before they closed there
> doors. They did the skirted and deskirted (1950s)
> version. The cars were $300. dollars each. If I
> were BLI, I would strive to match these cars and I
> personally think they will. They proved they can
> do a great job on the Zephyr cars. Even with small
> problems as windows not being flush and such, they
> are great models for a decent price in comparison.

> I may be wrong, but hope I'm not.

Hi Dave,

Well, this time, there's no fussy dome car (with sunken window glass) to worry about, unlike the BLI CZ, so these daylight cars should be pretty good, I hope.

Cheers,
Harry

"Your" prices, what are the "retail" prices estimated to be?

Am I correct in assuming these are brass cars? My family is full of SP fans, but those prices pretty much guarantee that again I'm not going to get any articulated cars.

n6nvr Wrote:
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> "Your" prices, what are the "retail" prices
> estimated to be?
>
> Am I correct in assuming these are brass cars? My
> family is full of SP fans, but those prices pretty
> much guarantee that again I'm not going to get any
> articulated cars.

Brass cars for $69 for the single units? I think not.

Also, note that the $129 cars are actually two-unit articulated cars, so the pricing scales out appropriately. Same goes for the three-unit coffee shop cars.

Undoubtedly, these'll be plastic, of some sort.

Cheers,
Harry