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Model Railroading > Exactrail List - The PC&F BoxcarsDate: 05/23/12 07:12 Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars Author: funnelfan I was curious about all these PC&F boxcars, so I did some digging mostly on the railcarphotos.com website and came up with the following;
Note: Thanks to Dave Hussey and Dave Olsen for filling in missing detail. 071. PC&F Box Car 3968 -GN, BN 40' car with 9' Youngstown door 175. PC&F Box Car 4124 - SP, GWS 40' rib side car http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=14547 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=40914 130. PC&F Box Car 4762 10’-6” Plug Door -MP, FSR 50' flat roof http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=68360 276. PC&F Box Car 4949 - CP Rebuild? http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=16535 024. PC&F Box Car 4974 -MILW, WC 122. PC&F Box Car 5077 Plate B - See next two entries 239. PC&F Box Car 5077 with improved Dreadnaught Ends -BN, BNSF, MILW, CP, WC 50' flat roof http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=38423 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=10631 058. PC&F Box Car 5077 with Non-Terminating Corrugated Ends -BN, RBOX, CSXT http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=49956 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=22376 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=3051 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=42814 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=52435 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=58366 174. PC&F Box Car 5102 Combination Door with 8’ Corrugated Youngstown Door and 6’ Youngstown Slide Plate B GN Signature -GN, BN http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=8945 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=69534 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=8946 082. PC&F Box Car 5148 Double Door (with terminating dreadnaught ends) -BPRR, QC, WCTR, SLC, GNWR http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=46946 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=50439 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=41217 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=61930 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=25847 156. PC&F Box Car 5148 Double Door (with non-terminating box corrugated ends) WP Signature -WP, UP w/ WP marks http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=10401 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=57061 273. PC&F Box Car 5188 (Raised Roof) -CP Rebuild http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=63544 046. PC&F Box Car 5195 12’ Plug Door Partial Waffle -SP, GWS/VCY, MNNR, CAGY http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=59984 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=16838 268. PC&F Box Car 5215 6’ and 8’ YSD V-Latch Double Plug Door -GN, BN http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=37571 043. PC&F Box Car 5241 Boston & Maine Signature -B&M, Guilford, Pan Am http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=1402 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=32917 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=47001 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=47936 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=34668 139. PC&F Box Car 5242 10’ Plug Door Plate C -GN, BN, BNSF, AOK http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=22812 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=67315 142. PC&F Box Car 5243 Double Door -SSW, GWS, CRLE http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=37089 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=10055 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=46142 205. PC&F Box Car 5258 (Reduced Door) -See next three entries 068. PC&F Box Car 5258 10’ Plug Door (converted from 16’ double slider) 027. PC&F Box Car 5258 10’ YSD Replacement Door Conversion -SP, GWS, TKEN, ATW http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=30866 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=59644 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=67949 225. PC&F Box Car 5258 12’ Plug Door -SP, GWS http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=35287 121. PC&F Box Car 5258 Double Door -SP, SSW, GWS/GVSR http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=5450 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=57054 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=59194 105. PC&F Box Car 5266 Plug Door -GN, BN, MRL http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=37879 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=37881 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=37033 155. PC&F Box Car 5266 ???? 067. PC&F Box Car 5268 YSD V-Latch Double Plug -GN, BN http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=46188 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=52781 221. PC&F Box Car 5277 Combination Door -RBOX, CNA 126. PC&F Box Car 5277 Railbox http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=56799 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=23273 236. PC&F Box Car 5277 10’ Plug Door Plate C -CNA 108. PC&F Box Car 5307 Double 8’ Plug Door Plate C -CIRR, NADX, TOE, CLC, MSV, OAR http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=52483 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=67184 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=5521 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=7783 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=5133 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=10221 019. PC&F Box Car 5317 -(flat roofs)BMS, EEC, GTRA, LRA, SLR, LVRC -(peaked roofs) HS, STLA, SRN....ST Mary, OCRY http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=69542 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=31581 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=58501 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=41373 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=64725 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=47083 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=60041 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=49768 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=22127 146. PC&F Box Car 5326 Double Door (Increased Height) -WCTR, ...Waterloo, CNA http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=43273 011. PC&F Box Car 5335 -ADN, AGR, ALM, ECC http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=67231 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=62693 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=49679 161. PC&F Box Car 5461 Double Door Plate C -BCIT, CNA, CPAA, PROX http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=45667 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=44557 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=38032 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=38031 023. PC&F Box Car 5472 Double Door -SP, GWS, CRLE http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=22570 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=29716 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=4503 102. PC&F Box Car 5486 10’ Plug Door (variation #1) Plate C -BN, BNSF http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=52606 098. PC&F Box Car 5486 10’ Plug Door (variation #2) Plate C -BN 192. PC&F Box Car 5486 Double Door -BN, BNSF http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=5330 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=40449 280. PC&F Box Car 5504 Double Door -BCIT, BCH, ALM, SSAM, ....SRY http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=67626 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=40178 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=51274 196. PC&F Box Car 5528 with Bow-Tie or bifurcated Dreadnaught Terminated Ends -ADN, ALM, CAGY,....LVRC http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=4049 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=62296 004. PC&F Box Car 5528 Plate C Double 8’ Plug Door -CLC, TOE, ...CAGY http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=61813 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=599 013. PC&F Box Car 5824 Double Plug Door Plate C -UP, ....EPRY http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=25342 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=62841 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=51306 245. PC&F Box Car 6157 Double 8’ Plug Door Plate F -MILW, CPAA, ....FGLK http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=936 272. PC&F Box Car 6179 Double Plug Door Plate F -MILW, WSOR, WC http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=60369 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=14955 060. PC&F Box Car 6187 Double Plug Door Plate F Union Pacific Signature -UP 283. PC&F Box Car 6308 Double Door (Extended Height) -VCY Converted from B-70-81 http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-81.htm 262. PC&F Box Car 6308 Double Plug Door Plate C -UP 026. PC&F Box Car 6359 Double Plug Door Plate F Union Pacific Signature -UP, IFRX, MNNR http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=34778 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=47695 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=61175 107. PC&F Box Car 6486 Double Door Plate E -CNW, ALAB http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=29527 202. PC&F Box Car 6505 Double 8’ Plug Door Heavy Duty Bifurcated Terminating Dreadnaught Ends Plate F -ATW, CLC, NADX, TOE, OC&E, ....OLRY http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=52184 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=20648 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=23335 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=67185 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=6620 134. PC&F Box Car 7125 Double Door (6’ and 10’ Youngstown Slider) -SP, CSXT, ....AOK, CPAA Mismarked from 7129 cars http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b070-70.htm 125. PC&F Box Car 7284 -CSX, MP 097. PC&F Box Car 7295 Double Door (6’ and 10’ Youngstown Slider) Double Sheathed -SSW, GWS/VCY Bifurcated ends http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-48.htm 223. PC&F Box Car 7348 Elongated Waffle -SP, GWS/VCY, UP, AMEX, PSMX, HPJX http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=17773 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=16184 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=59615 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=851 http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-39.htm 222. PC&F Box Car 7413 -CSX 258. PC&F Box Car 7422 Double Door with Bifurcated Terminating Dreadnaught Ends Double Sheathed -SSW, GWS/VCY mismarked from 7477 http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-47.htm 086. PC&F Box Car 7477 8’ Double Door -SP http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-44.htm 163. PC&F Box Car 7633 -WP, MILW, CP, MP, UP http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=62790 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=3894 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=3852 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=20235 266. PC&F Box Car 10354 Double Plug Door Plate F+ -ATSF http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=27275 171. PC&F Box Car 10414 Quad Plug Door Plate F+ SP Signature -SP, SSW http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=46297 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=6172 Ted Curphey Ontario, OR Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 05/24/12 06:36 by funnelfan. Date: 05/23/12 07:34 Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars Author: funnelfan Honestly only a few of these would make viable model products. AS far as I see it, the only commercially viable models on the list with the current info I have are;
058. PC&F Box Car 5077 with Non-Terminating Corrugated Ends -BN, RBOX, CSXT Three solid roadnames spanning the country, some repaint variations. Though not a terribly exciting car. 174. PC&F Box Car 5102 Combination Door with 8’ Corrugated Youngstown Door and 6’ Youngstown Slide Plate B GN Signature -GN, BN Of the various GN plug door boxcars on the list, this was one that could have enough interest to be viable. It's distinctive enough visually with two GN schemes, a few BN schemes, and possibly a BNSF scheme. CB&Q may have also had this car, but I'm not sure. 082. PC&F Box Car 5148 Double Door (with terminating dreadnaught ends) -BPRR, QC, WCTR, SLC, GNWR 156. PC&F Box Car 5148 Double Door (with non-terminating box corrugated ends) WP Signature -WP, UP w/ WP marks If the model can be tooled with interchangeable ends, both of these would be viable. 108. PC&F Box Car 5307 Double 8’ Plug Door Plate C -CIRR, NADX, TOE, CLC, MSV A distinctive looking car tied to a few interesting paint schemes. SP and SSW also had a similar car. 245. PC&F Box Car 6157 Double 8’ Plug Door Plate F -MILW, CP Possibly viable as a MILW signature car. I've also seen this car in full CP red. 202. PC&F Box Car 6505 Double 8’ Plug Door Heavy Duty Bifurcated Terminating Dreadnaught Ends Plate F -ATW, CLC, NADX, TOE, OC&E This one might be a bit iffy, but it's a car with distinctive ends and a couple of good paint schemes. 223. PC&F Box Car 7348 Elongated Waffle -SP, UP, AMEX, PSMX, HPJX This car would do well with SP fans. The Popsicle stick car would probably do well all around just for it's uniqueness. Ted Curphey Ontario, OR Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/23/12 12:06 by funnelfan. Date: 05/23/12 08:26 Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars Author: WAF Perhaps it will be like the brass stuff and only, say a 100 made.
Date: 05/23/12 09:52 Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars Author: bnsfsd70 Wow! Thanks for digging all of this up.
- Jeff Date: 05/23/12 11:13 Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars Author: WAF I would like to see some of those SP cars, plus item 202 for CLC and 82 for WCTC
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/23/12 11:14 by WAF. Date: 05/23/12 11:54 Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars Author: Fizzboy7 Some good ones in there. Thanks for making these links available. Much appreciated.
Date: 05/23/12 12:07 Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars Author: drolsen Great compilation, Ted. Here are a couple additions:
funnelfan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 058. PC&F Box Car 5077 with Non-Terminating Corrugated > Ends -BN, RBOX, CSXT > http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=49956 > http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=22376 > http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=3051 > http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=42814 > http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=52435 > http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=58366 Also C&O and SBD prior to CSXT, but those were likely all patched RBOX paint jobs. I'll check for any SBD full repaints. I would LOVE to see this car produced in HO for my CSX fleet. The subtle differences between the P-S, FMC, and PC&F Plate B cars make for an interesting mix of box cars, in my opinion. > 134. PC&F Box Car 7125 Double Door (6’ and 10’ > Youngstown Slider) SP/SSW B-70-70: http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b070-70.htm An number of the Cotton Belt cars went to CSX: CSXT 173303: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=652703 > 097. PC&F Box Car 7295 Double Door (6’ and 10’ > Youngstown Slider) Double Sheathed SSW / Golden West (VCY) B-100-48: http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-48.htm http://drolsen.rrpicturearchives.net/rsPicture.aspx?id=499012 > 223. PC&F Box Car 7348 Elongated Waffle -SP, UP, > AM, PSMX, HPJX > http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=17773 > http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=16184 > http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=59615 > http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=851 > http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-39.htm One more photo (a small one but the only one I have): AMEX 1070: http://drolsen.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1750939 > 258. PC&F Box Car 7422 Double Door with Bifurcated > Terminating Dreadnaught Ends Double Sheathed I think this is referring to these SSW/Golden West 7477 cuft cars? http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-47.htm I definitely think the "popsicle" car would be a great model. I'd welcome any new SP cars, but especially a 5077 for CSX. Dave Date: 05/23/12 12:29 Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars Author: funnelfan Thanks Dave. I was getting some misses on the larger cars I believe due to incorrect cuft numbers. I need to do look at some of those other PC&F UP cars to see if they are close to some missing ones. I'll update the master list with the new info.
Ted Curphey Ontario, OR Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/23/12 12:30 by funnelfan. Date: 05/23/12 12:40 Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars Author: TCnR A few of those PC&F BN heritage cars were offered in kit form from Modeler's Choice, they have since stopped advertising or however it can be described. The kit's were pretty raw but not outrageous at all.
I didn't recognize the version in the photo as having been made by Exactrail. The combo doors were pretty specific, maybe a replacement door would work out. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/23/12 17:54 by TCnR. Date: 05/24/12 05:52 Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars Author: Stottman Unless they use allot of modular molds (which they seem to already), I dont see how many of those are viable models;
Most are close to one owner cars .S P, SSW and Golden West doesnt make 3 :) Or, they are so similar to stuff thats already out there (plate B PC&F railbox type) that 90% wont notice a difference. Date: 05/24/12 06:46 Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars Author: funnelfan With the help of others, I've edited the list to include some new additions. Those additions have pointed out a couple of other cars that could be commercially viable.
122. PC&F Box Car 5077 Plate B - See next two entries 239. PC&F Box Car 5077 with improved Dreadnaught Ends -BN, BNSF, MILW, CP, WC 50' flat roof 058. PC&F Box Car 5077 with Non-Terminating Corrugated Ends -BN, RBOX, CSXT 50' Peaked roof If the roof and ends could be interchangeable, this model would be a good seller. Even if the parts couldn't be made interchangeable, each version probably could still stand on it's own. 163. PC&F Box Car 7633 -WP, MILW, CP, MP, UP Not sure if there is any appetite left for 60' hi-cubes, but this car features several good roadnames. Ted Curphey Ontario, OR Date: 05/26/12 11:18 Re: Exactrail List - The PC&F Boxcars Author: fbe It would be nice to see the MILW high cube 50' double plug door paper cars. They were so common on the Rocky Mountain division.
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