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Date: 07/20/13 09:57
NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in HO
Author: Tony_Cook

Bachmann has pre-production samples of its coming HO-scale GE ES44AC GEVO and EMD SD70ACe at Atlanta's NMRA Show. Here's a view of each. September delivery is promised for DCC Sound Value on Board editions in Norfolk Southern Heritage Series paint. The models will retail for $275 each.

Tony Cook, editor
Model Railroad News
https://www.facebook.com/ModelRailroadNews






Date: 07/20/13 10:07
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: Tony_Cook

Additional pictures are available for Bachmann's SD70ACe are posted on Model Railroad News' website: http://www.modelrailroadnews.com/news.html



Date: 07/20/13 11:02
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: funnelfan

Ummm, seperate brake lines on the truck, but modeled on grab irons on the front of the nose? Seriously!?!?

Ted Curphey
Ontario, OR



Date: 07/20/13 11:05
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: MilwMike

Is it me or does the Ace look a bit short? Could be the photo? Perhaps some painted models will make them look better.

But at those prices why would you buy a Bachmann one, when you can get an MTH or Atearn one at almost the same MSRP price?

MilwMike



Date: 07/20/13 11:39
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: Larry020

Who pays Bachmann MSRP?

Larry



Date: 07/20/13 12:42
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: wheel_slip

Toys... They look like toys... I guess there is a market...

Andy



Date: 07/20/13 12:43
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: mgwsy1978

wheel_slip Wrote:
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> Toys... They look like toys... I guess there is a
> market...
>
> Andy


Isn't that what all model trains are? LOL



Date: 07/20/13 13:00
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: oilcan

Honestly those look like junk. Plus by the time the first one is released, Athearn will probably have all of their NS Heritage ACes on the market.



Date: 07/20/13 13:47
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: nikon1

funnelfan Wrote:
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> Ummm, seperate brake lines on the truck, but
> modeled on grab irons on the front of the nose?
> Seriously!?!?


The grab irons are applied separately but, are pushed right up against the nose.
Charlie
MP 53 on the BNSF Topeka Sub



Date: 07/20/13 13:50
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: brfriedm

Looks like separate grabs on top of the nose and molded on the front. Bruce


nikon1 Wrote:
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> funnelfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ummm, seperate brake lines on the truck, but
> > modeled on grab irons on the front of the nose?
> > Seriously!?!?
>
>
> The grab irons are applied separately but, are
> pushed right up against the nose.
> Charlie
> MP 53 on the BNSF Topeka Sub




Date: 07/20/13 16:05
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: rschonfelder

OK Modern people ... what is the difference between this version vs. Genesis' and MTH? Are they nuts at Bachmann? I wonder when they will announce their F unit?

Rick



Date: 07/20/13 16:54
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: antlorch

Ok why do seperate grabs on top of the nose and not on the front?



Date: 07/20/13 17:22
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: Andre

antlorch Wrote:
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> Ok why do seperate grabs on top of the nose and
> not on the front?


As was said by a previous poster, the grabs are just pushed into far, I am sure that the production models will have them where they are supposed to be. And what the heck they at least have separate grabs, MU hoses and brake lines on the trucks unlike Kato latest offering!

Andre



Date: 07/20/13 18:04
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: NSTopHat

Having seen and handled the units first hand the grabs on the face of the nose are modled on and the ones on top are wire formed. The cross section of the fuel tank is wrong, just like the Intermountain units, and the ear handrails will be wrong as well. The db fan and radiator fans on the SD70ACE harken back to the old high hooded GP50 they produced years ago. The radiator core on the GE's have less depth than the old Tower 55 units.

I had ordered two for each of my kids. I will be cancelling all four of them from my LHS and will switch them over to Athearn units.

Regards,
Russ



Date: 07/20/13 19:22
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: bnsfsd70

Ya know, there's certainly a market for inexpensive Atlas Trainmanesque GEVO's and ACe's, but these appear to have all kinds of bizarre proportions and detail issues at a fairly steep price point. If they want to save costs by omitting detail, that's fine, but you've at least got to get the body dimensions correct. I could be wrong, but the wheelbase on the ACe looks pretty short.

Really not sure what Bachmann is getting at with these.

- Jeff



Date: 07/20/13 19:22
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: antlorch

I could tell from the close up picture of the Ace that the front grabs where molded on, look close at the pic. These might not be bad for $100.00 but noway for the price they are asking.

I don't understand who does the designs for these but they need to look at the other manufactures and what they are releasing to see what standards are being set. O well it is what it is.



Date: 07/20/13 19:43
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: bigmc83

Everyone is complaining about the SD70ACe being too short. Would not be surprised if both models are the same wheelbase in order to save money on tooling. The GEVO does not look bad, but the SD70ACe could use some improvements. Really thought Bachmann had something...

-Sean



Date: 07/20/13 21:15
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: sd80mac

comparison...







Date: 07/21/13 04:23
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: NSTopHat

The trucks did look goofy when i was looking at the model. And i forgot to mention, the rear ditch lights will not function, "because that would cost too much..." per Lee Riley of Bachmann.

Regards,
Russ



Date: 07/21/13 13:39
Re: NMRA Atlanta Show - Early Pics Bachmann GEVO/ACe in
Author: keysubdiv

looks like no safety tread on the walkways either.
would that cost too much also?

twl



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