Model Railroading > sp #10200 Soho rebuilt diner

Attached is my rebuilt Soho 10200 SP diner circa 1959-1961. I scrapped the original floor and scratch-built a new floor with aftermarket details. removed skirts, and added aftermarket brass trucks.

let me know what you think.

sincerely yours,

john ruehle

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Looks really good. Just needs an interior.
Cheers
Charlie
MP 52.8 on the BNSF Topeka sub

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How did you remove the skirts off of a brass model?

Looks good enough to be replaced by an Automat Car!

a beauty what paint did you use great job...........

WAF Wrote:
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> How did you remove the skirts off of a brass
> model?

I used a straight metal ruler (short and clamped it to the side of the car and SLOWLY cut with a dremel cutting wheel. (very slow and tedious)

John

Nicely done. SP10200 was repainted into the simulated stainless steel scheme and may have been the only car that received the "Daylight" on the number plate with this paint scheme .  BTW, I have also rebuilt Soho and Coach Yard cars and have removed skirting. I remove skirting with a exacto saw, a file, and sandpaper to smooth the edge after the cut.  It is a good idea to tape the sides with painters tape above the skirting to prevent damage to the sides in the event of an "oops". 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/24/15 07:15 by ATSF3751.

SP3800 Wrote:
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> WAF Wrote:
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> > How did you remove the skirts off of a brass
> > model?
>
> I used a straight metal ruler (short and clamped
> it to the side of the car and SLOWLY cut with a
> dremel cutting wheel. (very slow and tedious)
>
> John
I tried that, not as straight as you

WAF Wrote:
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> SP3800 Wrote:
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> > WAF Wrote:
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> > > How did you remove the skirts off of a brass
> > > model?
> >
> > I used a straight metal ruler (short and
> clamped
> > it to the side of the car and SLOWLY cut with a
> > dremel cutting wheel. (very slow and tedious)
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> > John
> I tried that, not as straight as you

When I use the exacto saw, I always cut  the skirt just below the actual line I have marked,  then I use a file to bring it up to the exact line on the carbody. With a file, you can slowly remove the excess to an exact match. There is no room for error when you cut right on the line.

Just some background on this particular diner. i wanted a correct diner for my San Joaquin daylight. since I have the Soho corrugated side dome, #3604. I could not find a coach yard diner, so I modified the Soho car since it was reasonable (i.e. $100.00)  and i wanted the diner with different trucks (41N) not the triple bolster trucks under #10201. I did not want a daylight painted diner since the train has a mix of daylight, sliver with red letter board, and solid and two tone grey cars. Also this car ca be used on the Overland before the train was discontinued in 1963. Eventually, I will do the 10201 in daylight.

John Ruehle

nikon1 Wrote:
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> Looks really good. Just needs an interior.
> Cheers
> Charlie
> MP 52.8 on the BNSF Topeka sub
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> Posted from Android

BTW the interior is getting built

John

SP3800 Wrote:
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> Just some background on this particular diner. i
> wanted a correct diner for my San Joaquin
> daylight. since I have the Soho corrugated side
> dome, #3604. I could not find a coach yard diner,
> so I modified the Soho car since it was reasonable
> (i.e. $100.00)  and i wanted the diner with
> different trucks (41N) not the triple bolster
> trucks under #10201. I did not want a daylight
> painted diner since the train has a mix of
> daylight, sliver with red letter board, and solid
> and two tone grey cars. Also this car ca be used
> on the Overland before the train was discontinued
> in 1963. Eventually, I will do the 10201 in
> daylight.
>
> John Ruehle


You are doing great work.  Looking forward to seeing the entire train.

The de-painted look (stainless fluting, "Simulated Stainless Steel" roof, skirts, and ends) is right on for this car. Photos in SPH&TS's Volume 4 show the car as having received the 1958-style "Daylight" script insignia, but in orange lettering. I checked my Microsoft files and it looks like they haven't done that one yet, but I'm not positive.

Nice to see a "Daylight"-type car with non-Triple Bolster trucks -- and not by accident! That's a neat variation, seen eventually on many of the SP's prewar car types.

Looking forward to seeing the interior. You've taken a somewhat dated Soho model and brought it alive. Good going!

~ BZ

Very nice John,

Thanks for sharing.

Jeff

I noticed only 5 windows in the dining room.  Does that make this one a 40 seat diner?  48 seat cars have 6 dining car windows.  The other question:  is this car a "shorty" or a full 85 foot car?  Always nice to see SP models.  AA

Stanford White
Carmel Valley, CA

agentatascadero Wrote:
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> I noticed only 5 windows in the dining room. 
> Does that make this one a 40 seat diner?  48 seat
> cars have 6 dining car windows.  The other
> question:  is this car a "shorty" or a full 85
> foot car?  Always nice to see SP models.  AA

the car is correct length.

John ruehle

 

The 1937 and 1938 "Daylight" truss-frame cars were 77 feet in length, so technically they are "shorties" -- but prototypically so. Athearn's Genesis Chair Car is an example. The later cars (Snowflake and sisters) were 83 feet, built after the War at a time when streamlined car standards became a little more set.

The 1939 and 1941 "Daylight" cars were 79 feet, and these have been modeled by BLI and MTH. Soho cars have very simplified underbodies and trucks that don't pass 21st Century muster at all (they almost don't pass the laugh test!) -- but dimensionally the bodies are pretty good overall and can make nice models when detailed to modern standards... as John is proving here!

~ BZ



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