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Date: 03/31/15 15:42
Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: GenePoon

> WASHINGTON – Amtrak received recognition for workplace excellence by
> earning a spot in Forbes magazine’s first-ever America’s Best
> Employers 2015.

-Amtrak Media Relations


That might sound good...until you see that Amtrak ranked #401
and the list includes 500 employers.  Still, at least Amtrak
placed on the list, even if in the bottom 20%.

If there are going to be 500 "winners", that sounds like one
of those contests where almost everybody wins.

Forbes doesn't say what the criteria were for inclusion, nor how
many beyond 500 qualified for consideration.

Among Class One USA railroads, Amtrak landed in the bottom half.

Among others in the transportation sector, four Class Ones scored
higher than Amtrak, and four big-city transportation agencies.

And Greyhound.

And commuter rail operator Veolia.

18.  Southwest Airlines
19.  JetBlue
33.  SEPTA
49.  MBTA
54.  Union Pacific
62.  Ryder Transportation
93.  Alaska Air Group
105. Greyhound
164. BNSF
169. FedEx Freight
172. CSX
211. Old Dominion Freight
238. Delta Air Lines
242. FedEx Express
307. NYMTA
324. BART
337. Veolia
358. Con-Way
362. Norfolk Southern
365. Schneider
381. FedEx Services
389. United Parcel Service
426. SkyWest
496. American Airlines



Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 03/31/15 20:02 by GenePoon.



Date: 03/31/15 15:55
Re: Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: CPR_4000

New Jersey Transit didn't make the list?



Date: 03/31/15 16:20
Re: Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: knotch8

NJT no raises, Governor took away the employees' pass privileges. No, nowhere near one of the top places to work.



Date: 03/31/15 16:45
Re: Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: Out_Of_Service

GenePoon Wrote:
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>
> Forbes doesn't say what the criteria were for
> inclusion, nor how
> many beyond 500 qualified for consideration.
>
>

THERE WERE 501 ENTRIES ...
>
>
> And Greyhound.
>
> And commuter rail operator Veolia.
>
> 18.  Southwest Airlines
> 19.  JetBlue
> 33.  SEPTA
> 49.  MBTA
> 54.  Union Pacific
> 62.  Ryder Transportation
> 93.  Alaska Air Group
> 105. Greyhound
> 164. BNSF
> 169. FedEx Freight
> 172. CSX
> 211. Old Dominion Freight
> 238. Delta Air Lines
> 242. FedEx Express
> 307. NYMTA
> 324. BART
> 337. Veolia
> 358. Con-Way
> 362. Norfolk Southern
> 365. Schneider
> 389. United Parcel Service
> 426. SkyWest
> 496. American Airlines

501. NJT

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Date: 03/31/15 16:56
Re: Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: CPR_4000

knotch8 Wrote:
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> NJT no raises, Governor took away the employees'
> pass privileges.

Thought only non-agreement employees lost their passes. Dumb, petty move on Christie's part.



Date: 03/31/15 16:59
Re: Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: knotch8

True on both counts. Christie tried to take the agreement employees' pass privileges, too, but the unions argued that they're built into the contracts.

Watch out come contract-renewal time.



Date: 03/31/15 17:07
Re: Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: CPR_4000

Wasn't that in retaliation for the Sandy screwup? Meanwhile, the real perps walked. That's Joisey for ya.



Date: 03/31/15 17:34
Re: Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: knotch8

No, it was one of his populist moves. He did the same thing to PATCO people. Took away bridge-crossing benefits for DRPA bridges and the DRPA bridge at Delaware Memorial Bridge.



Date: 03/31/15 17:36
Re: Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: CPR_4000

Oh, Ok, "fiscal responsibility."



Date: 03/31/15 18:32
Re: Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: MEKoch

Wow.  Just ask the employees of these railroads.  They will have nothing good to say.  CSX operating employees all around me comment that the company will attempt to save ten cents, but waste two dollars doing it....   They consider it a hostile place to work, where the mgmt. are constantly trying to catch an employee in the smallest lapse, so that punishment can be administered.  A three mph speed violation got an employee 14 days.......his first offense.



Date: 03/31/15 19:42
Re: Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: CPR_4000

MEKoch Wrote:
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> They consider
> it a hostile place to work, where the mgmt. are
> constantly trying to catch an employee in the
> smallest lapse, so that punishment can be
> administered. 

That's nothing new, it's been that way forever, and not just on CSX.



Date: 03/31/15 19:59
Re: Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: irhoghead

CPR_4000 Wrote:
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> MEKoch Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They consider
> > it a hostile place to work, where the mgmt. are
> > constantly trying to catch an employee in the
> > smallest lapse, so that punishment can be
> > administered. 
>
> That's nothing new, it's been that way forever,
> and not just on CSX.

And it's not just the Class 1 railroads, either.  One used to be able to get away from all of that BS by going to work for a short line, but now that so many former Class 1 management people are getting jobs at various short lines, it sucks there too.



Date: 03/31/15 21:16
Re: Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: GenePoon

MEKoch Wrote:
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> Wow.  Just ask the employees of these
> railroads.  They will have nothing good to say. 


A little digging got to the methodology that led to the Forbes rankings...the results were the results of
surveying EMPLOYEES at companies with at least 2,500 workers.

It would appear that they DID ask the employees of these railroads.



Date: 04/01/15 06:58
Re: Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: CPR_4000

GenePoon Wrote:
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> It would appear that they DID ask the employees of
> these railroads.

I wonder if they included T&E in the surveys or just asked the white collar folks.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/01/15 06:59 by CPR_4000.



Date: 04/01/15 07:01
Re: Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: timecruncher

I know Amtrak T&E people who might find fault with the listing due to how the carrier repeatedly denies pay to employees who are asked to work trains with short crews, double back (until they doglaw) on their runs, are due pay in excess of regular time due to freight train delays, lack of hotel rooms at away terminals, the list goes on and on. 

Greyhound.  First Transit is one of the least labor-friendly organizations on planet earth.

Can't say for the others.

NJT won't allow its own employees to ride free on their ID cards?  Really?

timecruncher



Date: 04/01/15 07:35
Re: Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: tmurray

GenePoon Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> MEKoch Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> A little digging got to the methodology that led
> to the Forbes rankings...the results were the
> results of
> surveying EMPLOYEES at companies with at least
> 2,500 workers.
>
> It would appear that they DID ask the employees of
> these railroads.

Sure. 2,500 Senior Director and up employees. I'd wager at least 500 of those are VP and up.
Fill in the blank for any large corporation; csx, dizknee, ge, you name it .  Been there, been screwed by that. Spend $250 to save $0.10, cut raises, and give employees dire speeches, but give the senior staff six figure bonuses.... corporate america.



Date: 04/01/15 14:30
Re: Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: PERichardson

You think 'let them eat cake' Forbes would interview actual hourly, line workers about what they think?   Doubtful



Date: 04/01/15 18:11
Re: Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: YukonYeti

Those that Bellyache about corporate America should think about living in Socialist China or Cuba.  One thing they have is cheap transportation...



Date: 04/02/15 10:20
Re: Amtrak: "WE'RE NUMBER 401!"
Author: WP-M2051

YukonYeti Wrote:
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> Those that Bellyache about corporate America
> should think about living in Socialist China or
> Cuba.  One thing they have is cheap
> transportation
...But they have classic cars in Cuba!



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