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Date: 12/16/16 14:35
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Author: F40PHR231

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/17/21 14:42 by F40PHR231.



Date: 12/16/16 14:58
Re: Charger and Genesis front-end comparison
Author: atsf121

Looking at that photo I wonder how strong the plow are is on the Charger. Will it end up like the Rotem cars and not be strong enough to keep the train on the rails when a crossing incident occurs?

Posted from iPhone



Date: 12/16/16 15:20
Re: Charger and Genesis front-end comparison
Author: KM-ML4000

Exact same design as the ACS64. Go look at the crash photos of the two wrecked on the NEC. They did pretty well considering.

atsf121 Wrote:
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> Looking at that photo I wonder how strong the plow
> are is on the Charger. Will it end up like the
> Rotem cars and not be strong enough to keep the
> train on the rails when a crossing incident
> occurs?
>
> Posted from iPhone



Date: 12/16/16 19:38
Re: Charger and Genesis front-end comparison
Author: miralomarail

The Charger Locomotive sure reminds me of a LRC ( Light Rapid Comfortable )



Date: 12/16/16 19:49
Re: Charger and Genesis front-end comparison
Author: 1976

I know you're all gonna disagree but the P42 looks MILES better than that new crap.



Date: 12/16/16 19:52
Re: Charger and Genesis front-end comparison
Author: GRNDMND

1976 Wrote:
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> I know you're all gonna disagree but the P42 looks
> MILES better than that new crap.

I'll be the first to disagree, but then I vote for a return to PA's and E-units. 

KC - it's all "you know what" now...



Date: 12/16/16 19:54
Re: Charger and Genesis front-end comparison
Author: ColdRainAndSnow

1976 Wrote:
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> I know you're all gonna disagree but the P42 looks
> MILES better than that new crap.

No disagreement here.



Date: 12/17/16 02:51
Re: Charger and Genesis front-end comparison
Author: BoilingMan

Six of One...
SR



Date: 12/17/16 06:03
Re: Charger and Genesis front-end comparison
Author: joemvcnj

I prefer the Siemens look. What I don't like is the huge "X" grill on the side. How are they going to keep snow out of there ?



Date: 12/17/16 08:10
Re: Charger and Genesis front-end comparison
Author: KM-ML4000

The only thing in there is the radiator (cooling plant as they call it), so there is no concern of snow or water getting into that section of the locomotive. Now, if someone leaves the engine room door or rear equipment room door open, that is a whole other story!
joemvcnj Wrote:
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> I prefer the Siemens look. What I don't like is
> the huge "X" grill on the side. How are they going
> to keep snow out of there ?



Date: 12/17/16 09:11
Re: Charger and Genesis front-end comparison
Author: GM50

Looks like the door into the cab is a couple steps lower in the Charger.



Date: 12/17/16 10:43
Re: Charger and Genesis front-end comparison
Author: engine3420

Both uugly..........



Date: 12/17/16 11:38
Re: Charger and Genesis front-end comparison
Author: tmurray

Strange, but true; they're both siemens designs.  The "Genssis Series" lines were based on ICE-1 lines; lines here referto design lineage.

How well will that Charger inake fare when ingesting a good amount of powdered snow?
I prefer the new EMD/Cat design.  Too bad it doesn't run for $h!t.


joemvcnj Wrote:
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> I prefer the Siemens look. What I don't like is
> the huge "X" grill on the side. How are they going
> to keep snow out of there ?



Date: 12/17/16 17:52
Re: Charger and Genesis front-end comparison
Author: atsf121

KM-ML4000 Wrote:
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> Exact same design as the ACS64. Go look at the
> crash photos of the two wrecked on the NEC. They
> did pretty well considering.
>
> atsf121 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Looking at that photo I wonder how strong the
> plow
> > are is on the Charger. Will it end up like the
> > Rotem cars and not be strong enough to keep the
> > train on the rails when a crossing incident
> > occurs?
> >
> > Posted from iPhone

Good to hear they held up, will have to find the photos.



Date: 12/17/16 17:56
Re: Charger and Genesis front-end comparison
Author: darkcloud

Chargers look a lot better than those worn out cheap sardine cans.



Date: 12/17/16 19:22
Re: Charger and Genesis front-end comparison
Author: Peak45068

I love sardines..........



Date: 12/18/16 18:31
Re: Charger and Genesis front-end comparison
Author: RutledgeRadio

I've always liked the Genesis units, but I believe the Chargers will eventually be the engine that phases them out. There's really no comparison to design, they're both different. I like them both. But I will miss Genesis when they're gone.

I will say, though, that this Charger design looks way better than the bullet-nose Brightline versions. The engines are just too tall to make a bullet nose look that good. Plus there may be more protection for the crew without it, in the event of a crossing accident. At least it looks that way to me.



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