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Date: 01/10/17 13:23
Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: GenePoon

Man arrested for assault after he missed Amtrak
The Independent
January 5, 2017
by Kelli Rollin

> HASTINGS — A South Dakota man missed his Amtrak train in Hastings and
> didn’t take it very well.
>
> Sgt. Brian Hessler of the Hastings Police Department said Alan Wanek,
> 41, missed his train and became upset. Hessler said the police were
> called at about 4 a.m.
>
> After Wanek missed his train, he was on the phone, presumably with
> Amtrak, trying to get a ticket refund. Hessler said Wanek’s victim
> said Wanek seemed intoxicated.
>
> Wanek got upset on the phone and kicked another man’s belongings. The
> man was also waiting for his train. The man, Hessler said, made a
> comment about Wanek leaving his stuff alone. Wanek then punched the
> man in the head. Hessler said the victim tried defending himself, but
> Wanek eventually left.
>
> When police arrived, the victim was found with a cut on his head and
> visible marks on his right cheek from the punch. Hessler said the
> victim was bleeding, but it wasn’t significant bleeding.
>
> Based on the victim’s description, police found Wanek on West Seventh
> Street with fresh injuries to his knuckles.
>
> Wanek was arrested for third-degree assault and is in custody.

LINK:

Man arrested for assault after he missed Amtrak


This loser probably assumed, "Amtrak is always late" and hung out at a bar, for too long.
But Train 5(4) was ON TIME at Hastings. Then when he heard from Amtrak, "NO REFUND," he
got pissed.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/10/17 13:26 by GenePoon.



Date: 01/10/17 13:39
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: irhoghead

Greyhound must not serve Hastings anymore.



Date: 01/10/17 13:49
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: CA_Sou_MA_Agent

Why are there no passengers like this on Rovos Rail, the Venice Simplon-Orient-Express and Rocky Mountaineer?

Could the fares being charged have something to do with it?   



Date: 01/10/17 13:55
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: SP4360

It's Amtrak's fault for being on time. 



Date: 01/10/17 14:14
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: The_Chief_Way

You nailed it. The low fares attract bus passengers.



Date: 01/10/17 14:14
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: DevalDragon

Is he still considered a passenger even though he never boarded a train?



Date: 01/10/17 14:16
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: SP4360

I think if you miss it, you forfeit your ticket and refund.

DevalDragon Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Is he still considered a passenger even though he
> never boarded a train?



Date: 01/10/17 14:17
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: The_Chief_Way

He's a customer. All passengers are customers, or attempted passengers in this case.



Date: 01/10/17 14:31
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: CA_Sou_MA_Agent

The_Chief_Way Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> You nailed it. The low fares attract bus passengers.


And that's the Achilles' heel of Amtrak.  High fares bring in quality, well-behaved people.  But there aren't enough of them who want to travel by train.  

Low fares fill up the trains, but then you have the type of people you see appearing in every episode of the TV show "COPS".
 
"Bad boys, Bad boys, Whatcha gonna do?  Whatcha gonna do when warden buys train ticket for you?" 

 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/11/17 10:25 by CA_Sou_MA_Agent.



Date: 01/10/17 15:41
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: waymongrimes

High fares to not necessarily bring in better passengers.  Money does not equate with class. There are icidents on  planes where passengers behave badly, there are people driving on the highways behaving badly.  I have been  on trains numerous times in coach and  sleeping car and  passengers were well behaved.  People travel by train and greyhound  for different  reasons not  necesaarily to misbehave.  Please do not paint all passengers with the same brush.



Date: 01/10/17 16:00
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: GenePoon

Having spent the money doesn't necessarily mean good behavior:

On a trip I took on the Sunset Limited in a Deluxe Bedroom, passengers in another Deluxe Bedroom got
into a family argument.  They were newlyweds on the way back from their honeymoon in Hawaii to
Del Rio, TX.  It got so bad that she broke a wine bottle and swung it at his face, fortunately a glancing blow
that drew blood, but did no further major injury.  The train was stopped, police and emergency medical
personnel responded.  He refused treatment and prosecution and the train continued on with the passengers
still aboard.  There was too much blood in the room to allow its further occupancy after Del Rio.

I don't know if they are still married...or if she otherwise managed to murder him!



Date: 01/10/17 16:01
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: Lackawanna484

Plenty of problems in first class too.

You get people who decide they don't care to sit next to women, and claim their rights are being violated. Or the usual aggressive drunks.

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Date: 01/10/17 16:05
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: irhoghead

It's true that you will find morons in any walk of life, from Beverly Hills to the worst ghetto. That being said, would I put my wife and kids on a Greyhound bus? Doubtful. Coach on a long distance Amtrak train used to be a safe bet, but anymore, that is getting to be more and more of a crap shoot as well. We usually take at least one long distance train trip every year. I can't recall one of them for many years now that hasn't had an issue come up somewhere along the way where the local law enforcement hasn't had to meet the train to haul off some fools from one of the coaches. Maybe that is just strange coincidence, or a growing trend. To each his own, but that is the way I see it.



Date: 01/10/17 16:14
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: CA_Sou_MA_Agent

waymongrimes Wrote:
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> High fares to not necessarily bring in better passengers.  Money does not equate with class. There are icidents on  planes where passengers behave badly  . . .


Chalk that up to low airfares.  Travel by air used to be a lot more classy and had a more respectable clientele  -- back when fares were a lot higher commensurate to the incomes of most people.  

They don't call Spirit Airlines the "Greyhound of the skies" for nothing.  

Before the "liberal narrative" chimed in, furnished with a strong dose of political correctness, I posed the following question:

Why are there no passengers like this on Rovos Rail, the Venice Simplon-Orient-Express and Rocky Mountaineer? 

Anyone care to take a stab at it?  



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01/10/17 16:22 by CA_Sou_MA_Agent.



Date: 01/10/17 16:18
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: RuleG

waymongrimes Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> High fares to not necessarily bring in better
> passengers.  Money does not equate with class.
> There are icidents on  planes where passengers
> behave badly, there are people driving on the
> highways behaving badly.  I have been  on trains
> numerous times in coach and  sleeping car and 
> passengers were well behaved.  People travel by
> train and greyhound  for different  reasons
> not  necesaarily to misbehave.  Please do not
> paint all passengers with the same brush.

Well said!



Date: 01/10/17 16:31
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: Lurch_in_ABQ

CA_Sou_MA_Agent Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>...... Before the "liberal narrative" chimed in,
> furnished with a strong dose of political
> correctness, I posed the following question:
> Why are there no passengers like this on Rovos
> Rail, the Venice Simplon-Orient-Express and Rocky
> Mountaineer? 
> Anyone care to take a stab at it?  
 
I'd like to see the data for passenger behavior on Rovos
Rail, the Venice Simplon-Orient-Express and Rocky
Mountaineer.
Do you have a link to the studies?



Date: 01/10/17 16:44
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: goneon66

RuleG Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> waymongrimes Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > High fares to not necessarily bring in better
> > passengers.  Money does not equate with class.
> > There are icidents on  planes where passengers
> > behave badly, there are people driving on the
> > highways behaving badly.  I have been  on
> trains
> > numerous times in coach and  sleeping car
> and 
> > passengers were well behaved.  People travel
> by
> > train and greyhound  for different  reasons
> > not  necesaarily to misbehave.  Please do not
> > paint all passengers with the same brush.
>
> Well said!

so, why is it that police officers are the busiest in areas with the lowest incomes?

66



Date: 01/10/17 16:51
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: RuleG

Nowhere in the article does it state whether he was booked in coach accommodations or sleeper.

Interesting that while some of you assumed he was a coach passenger (with all the baggage [pun intended]) that entails for the anti-coach/anti-Greyhound crowd, none of you discussed the fact he was drunk.  Getting drunk before or while traveling causes some people to behave badly regardless of class or mode of travel.
 



Date: 01/10/17 17:13
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: Lackawanna484

The football game in Green Bay this past weekend saw 23 arrested, and 40 kicked out.  Mostly due to drunken and disorderly conduct.  Apparently they keep a running total, this was about average for the season. About the same in NJ for the Giants and Jets.

In a few cities, like Tampa where your season tickets are voided if the holder is arrested or booted out, the rate is fewer than 1 per game on average. If you loaned them or sold them, your tickets and your right to buy next year, go psssst.

Hugs don't work. Cancel season tickets and throw the loser in the cooler for a while

 



Date: 01/10/17 17:32
Re: Loser misses Amtrak train, assaults another pax...arrested.
Author: USNChief

"If you have class it shows, if you don't it SHOUTS!"

Ret. Navy Chief Bob Jensen
Manteno MP 47 CN/IC Main Line , IL



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