Passenger Trains > Amtrak Police Chicago

Follow-up to the shooting reported on this site earlier this week.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/amtrak-officer-faces-murder-charge-fatal-chicago-shooting-173735259.html

I just pulled this up... seriously, how has Chicago escaped riots in this case? Really sad how this man could be shot like this ... WTF

One side note is that they keep saying that the person that was killed had no criminal record. Yet, one photo that is floating around on the internet as part of the story shows him wearing an orange jumpsuit. Looks suspiciously like a booking photo ( maybe he wasn't convicted) .

Gary

IC_2024 Wrote:
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> I just pulled this up... seriously, how has Chicago escaped riots in this case?

Perhaps the locals are becoming hardened to such events? It probably helps that the victim was from out of town (although Chicago has been the site of protests of shootings in other cities).

The warm weather this weekend (and the weekend) may help bring people out for protests. But riots are stupid. The level of emotional response has not reached stupid.

The "I thought he was reaching for a gun" and "I feared for my life" standard defenses are really getting old. And ineffective. Why did you think he was reaching for a gun? Did you see one? Couldn't be that since he didn't have one. How could someone who is running away from another, unarmed, be considered a deadly threat? Absolutely disgusting. I'm glad to see changes brought. A conviction is another story...

Posted from Android

NSClevelandLine Wrote:
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> The "I thought he was reaching for a gun" and "I
> feared for my life" standard defenses are really
> getting old. And ineffective. Why did you think he
> was reaching for a gun? Did you see one? Couldn't
> be that since he didn't have one. How could
> someone who is running away from another, unarmed,
> be considered a deadly threat? Absolutely
> disgusting. I'm glad to see changes brought. A
> conviction is another story...
>
> Posted from Android

I believe that you can easily find hundreds of incidents where officers did not know if a suspect was armed AND the suspect was reaching for a gun and the suspect gets the first (fatal) shot off.

Search here:

http://www.odmp.org/


The evidence in this case will have to be sorted out in court.

Gary

Posted from iPhone

"The suspect was running away?"
"Yes."
"And you shot him in the back?"
"Yes."
"Why did you shoot him?"
"I shot him because he had a gun."
"He didn't have a gun."
"Well I thought he had a gun."
"Ok ... case dismissed."

Not good.

 

SN711 Wrote:
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> NSClevelandLine Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The "I thought he was reaching for a gun" and
> "I
> > feared for my life" standard defenses are
> really
> > getting old. And ineffective. Why did you think
> he
> > was reaching for a gun? Did you see one?
> Couldn't
> > be that since he didn't have one. How could
> > someone who is running away from another,
> unarmed,
> > be considered a deadly threat? Absolutely
> > disgusting. I'm glad to see changes brought. A
> > conviction is another story...
> >
> > Posted from Android
>
> I believe that you can easily find hundreds of
> incidents where officers did not know if a suspect
> was armed AND the suspect was reaching for a gun
> and the suspect gets the first (fatal) shot off.
>
> Search here:
>
> http://www.odmp.org/
>
>
> The evidence in this case will have to be sorted
> out in court.
>
> Gary
>
> Posted from iPhone


That's the job. It's risky and dangerous. That's why it's not for everyone. If you're not comfortable with the risk that you may be shot at and/or killed, don't take the job.

IC_2024 Wrote:
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> I just pulled this up... seriously, how has
> Chicago escaped riots in this case? Really sad
> how this man could be shot like this ... WTF


Simple. Black officer.