International Railroad Discussion > China: a couple of oil trains

Twenty years ago Lishih (now known officially as Lüliang) and Yan'an were smallish towns in north central China with few modern buildings and no railroad. How things have changed. Huge and ongoing building developments and traffic jams are now the norm. And of course both are connected to the rest of China's burgeoning rail network.

The first shot is of a tanker train passing a 30 story block of apartments under construction in Yan'an.

The second shot is another oil train waiting at  Lüliang station for the arriving passenger train to pick up its passengers and depart.
 

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"How Ya Gonna Keep 'em Down on the Farm (After They've Seen [Lüliang's Starbucks & McD's]?)"

Do I recognize some similarity with IOREs on the second shot or is that purely coincidental?

Picture from Björkliden, Sweden by Gerry

 

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McKey Wrote:
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> Do I recognize some similarity with IOREs on the
> second shot or is that purely coincidental?
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> Picture from Björkliden, Sweden by Gerry
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Reversed engineered like everthing else.

SP4360 Wrote:
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> McKey Wrote:
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> > Do I recognize some similarity with IOREs on
> the
> > second shot or is that purely coincidental?
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> > Picture from Björkliden, Sweden by Gerry
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> >  
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> Reversed engineered like everthing else.

They don't belive in paying royalities. They just steal a design and then try to make it cheaper.

They are changing...how else could you encourage innovation if everyone just copied? Copying good enough designs was a custom in Western Europe too a long time ago. Can anyone remember if change came in 1970s or some other decade? And after that Soviet Union still copied ruthlessly anything it could manufacture. Below a famous example of for many parts a copied British locomotive, Tep70. Picture from Narva, Estonia.

PHall Wrote:
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> SP4360 Wrote:
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> > McKey Wrote:
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> > > Do I recognize some similarity with IOREs on
> > the
> > > second shot or is that purely coincidental?
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> > > Picture from Björkliden, Sweden by Gerry
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> > Reversed engineered like everthing else.
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> They don't belive in paying royalities. They just
> steal a design and then try to make it cheaper.

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McKey Wrote:
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> Do I recognize some similarity with IOREs on the
> second shot or is that purely coincidental?

Probably not coincidental, the classification on the side of the loco is one of the classes developed jointly with European manufacturers.