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International Railroad Discussion > Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in BrazilDate: 04/18/16 07:45 Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: pedrop Hi, This thread was open to show the rebuilding process of old GE´s and EMD´s locomotives to narrow gauge railroads in Brazil using the BB+BB truck arrangments.
Enjoy! 1 to 3: the GE´s arriving at Tubarao port (Vale), in Espirito Santo state. Pedro Rezende Vespasiano MG,    Date: 04/18/16 07:48 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: pedrop More pics of the arrival of the B36-7 at Tubarao port. All pics from Vale.
Pedro Rezende Vespasiano MG, https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1    Date: 04/18/16 07:51 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: pedrop More GE´s arriving at Vale port
Pedro Rezende Vespasiano MG, https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1    Date: 04/18/16 08:29 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: Topfuel That is fascinating. What year was this?
Date: 04/18/16 10:32 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: railcity Topfuel Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > That is fascinating. What year was this? I love to know the year too?? was it in 2015 or 2016?? Date: 04/18/16 11:40 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: Thumper Remind me again of the track gauge upon which these locomotives operate.
Date: 04/18/16 13:49 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: pedrop These GE's arrived in 2003.
Topfuel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That is fascinating. What year was this? Pedro Rezende Vespasiano MG, https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1 Date: 04/18/16 13:52 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: pedrop These units were converted to meter gauge (1,000mm)
Thumper Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Remind me again of the track gauge upon which > these locomotives operate. Pedro Rezende Vespasiano MG, https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1 Date: 04/18/16 14:55 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: boejoe Some of the photographs, without people for comparison, look like model locomotives.
Date: 04/18/16 18:21 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: boejoe Interesting that there was no attempt to paint over former owner's names or road numbers.
Date: 04/18/16 18:28 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: pedrop Most of them were painted later, but there are some with CSX and NS painting scheme until nowadays.
boejoe Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Interesting that there was no attempt to paint > over former owner's names or road numbers. Pedro Rezende Vespasiano MG, https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1 Date: 04/18/16 18:32 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: czephyr17 boejoe Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Some of the photographs, without people for > comparison, look like model locomotives. I was thinking the same thing, picture 4 looks like a box of locomotive shells I picked up at a swap meet! Fascinating stuff! Date: 04/19/16 10:52 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: pedrop More pics ateken at Tubarao shops by Vale employeee´s. Sorry for the quality
Pedro Rezende Vespasiano MG, https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1    Date: 04/19/16 10:54 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: pedrop More pics of the SD40´s at Tubarao shops. Pics by Vale employee´s
Pedro Rezende Vespasiano MG, https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1    Date: 04/19/16 10:58 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: pedrop The group of 30 SD40´s arrived in Brazil in 2005 and were purchased by fca railroad. The conversion job was made by Progress rail at Vale shops in Tubarao.
Pedro Rezende Vespasiano MG, https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1    Date: 04/19/16 11:01 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: pedrop More ex CP arriving at Vale properties in Tubarao port. Pics taken in 2005 by Vale employee´s
Pedro Rezende Vespasiano MG, https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1    Date: 04/19/16 11:01 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: Railbaron This is a very interesting series and I appreciate all your efforts. I do have a couple of questions.
1) Are the units delivered with their "standard gauge" trucks? 2) I notice on the EMD units the radiator section has been lowered so the fans appear to be inline with the rest of the roof. I also notice horns are relocated in the rebuild process. I assume this is for very close clearances somewhere online. Are the entire bodies also lowered somehow, at least on the EMD's? It seems I read the newer EMD units had to be lowered also. Keep up the great work! Date: 04/19/16 11:21 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: railcity Vale is buy alot of New Power these days over past few years, what happen to old SD40 engines then, when new engines come on line?? sent old engines to steel mill??
Date: 04/19/16 11:48 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: pedrop Hi, yes all the trucks came with the units. In one f the pics you can see then been removed from the ship. They were used only by the broad gauge locomotive here. MRS, for exemple, used the same trucks, but spread out them a bit (17 cm) to fit in our 1,600mm gauge. The Sd´s were not lowered. Actually, they became higher than normal. The former BNSF SD45-2 are the tallest locomotives of Vale fleet nowadays, since they were rebuilt withou the lowering of the radiator section.
Only the EMD units suffered a relocation of the radiator fans. I will show how it was donne in the posts here in this thread Railbaron Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This is a very interesting series and I appreciate > all your efforts. I do have a couple of > questions. > > 1) Are the units delivered with their "standard > gauge" trucks? > > 2) I notice on the EMD units the radiator > section has been lowered so the fans appear to be > inline with the rest of the roof. I also notice > horns are relocated in the rebuild process. I > assume this is for very close clearances somewhere > online. Are the entire bodies also lowered > somehow, at least on the EMD's? It seems I read > the newer EMD units had to be lowered also. > > Keep up the great work! > Pedro Rezende Vespasiano MG, https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1 Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/19/16 12:03 by pedrop. Date: 04/19/16 11:54 Re: Rebuilding GE´s and EMD´s to narrow gauge in Brazil Author: pedrop Vale ordered these locomotives in 2002 because neither the US and Brazilian Builders could supply new locomotves for Vale and other railroads nescessity at that time. Later the Vale ones were sold to fca railroad. Progress Rail also bought many and ALL railroad a lot more. More then one thousand ex US locomotives arrived in Brazil since 2003. ALL railroad started to scrapp the old C30-7 in 2015. Progress will scrapp the SD40´s in 2016/17. FCA started to scrapp the DDM45´s and GT26 this year. The SD40´s will follow the same way this year. But the GE´s will run a lot more. They were relocated to a new corridor last year and VLI said they will do a good career there.
railcity Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Vale is buy alot of New Power these days over > past few years, what happen to old SD40 engines > then, when new engines come on line?? sent old > engines to steel mill?? Pedro Rezende Vespasiano MG, https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1 Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/19/16 11:57 by pedrop. |