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Date: 01/26/17 08:06
Big EMD's x Tiny GE's (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

Two big EMD's sandwiching a tiny GE in a V class train today here in the yard. The grass is huge due to the last rains.

pedro

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,









Date: 01/26/17 10:28
Re: Big EMD's x Tiny GE's (Brazil)
Author: lynnpowell

Pedro, do they run any trains with mixed narrow gauge and standard gauge cars in the consist, like the D&RGW used to do in Colorado USA?



Date: 01/26/17 10:57
Re: Big EMD's x Tiny GE's (Brazil)
Author: PHall

lynnpowell Wrote:
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> Pedro, do they run any trains with mixed narrow
> gauge and standard gauge cars in the consist, like
> the D&RGW used to do in Colorado USA?

Did the D&RGW run mixed gauge trains?  How did they couple the cars together?



Date: 01/26/17 12:11
Re: Big EMD's x Tiny GE's (Brazil)
Author: DKay

They had several cars fitted with couplers set  at the correct height and center line   
Regards,DK....not my photos.
Wrote:
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> lynnpowell Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Pedro, do they run any trains with mixed narrow
> > gauge and standard gauge cars in the consist,
> like
> > the D&RGW used to do in Colorado USA?
>
> Did the D&RGW run mixed gauge trains?  How did
> they couple the cars together?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/26/17 12:59 by DKay.






Date: 01/26/17 16:26
Re: Big EMD's x Tiny GE's (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

It is more common to use a locomotive with different gauge of the cars. For exemple, a broad gauge loco pulling a narrow gauge train, or the opposite. We also have special cars to do this job. See pics attached.

1) fca (now VLI) use this special car to allow the broad gauge locomotives to pull narrow gauge trains in its system in Sao Paulo state;

2) fca also have cars with different trucks and couplers, like this GFD gondola that has a broad gauge truck in one end and a narrow gage truck in the other end;

3) Here it is a GFD gondola with dual gauge copuplers. This kind of cars use to have iron or stone ballast inside to be heavy.




lynnpowell Wrote:
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> Pedro, do they run any trains with mixed narrow
> gauge and standard gauge cars in the consist, like
> the D&RGW used to do in Colorado USA?

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1








Date: 01/26/17 16:31
Re: Big EMD's x Tiny GE's (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

These special cars to link trains with different gauge are called Maromba or Madrinha. Here are more exemples of them:

1) a "maromba" car with trucks in different gauges;

2) old wheels used to ballast the "maromba" cars;

3) Two GFD gondolas of different gagesconnected in a limestone train.


 

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1








Date: 01/26/17 17:10
Re: Big EMD's x Tiny GE's (Brazil)
Author: PHall

Those "adaptor cars" were used for yard switching.

DKay Wrote:
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> They had several cars fitted with couplers set
>  at the correct height and center line   
> Regards,DK....not my photos.
> Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > lynnpowell Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Pedro, do they run any trains with mixed
> narrow
> > > gauge and standard gauge cars in the consist,
> > like
> > > the D&RGW used to do in Colorado USA?
> >
> > Did the D&RGW run mixed gauge trains?  How did
> > they couple the cars together?



Date: 01/26/17 17:30
Re: Big EMD's x Tiny GE's (Brazil)
Author: DKay

Did not know that PHall,thanks for the info.
Pedro ,great set of photos.
Regards,DK



Date: 01/29/17 13:37
Re: Big EMD's x Tiny GE's (Brazil)
Author: BobP

Now that's interesting............................



Date: 02/05/17 16:46
Re: Big EMD's x Tiny GE's (Brazil)
Author: gobbl3gook

Nice pics.  Is there a source for the original owners of these particular EMDs?  

I assume they're part of this group of UP/CP/DRGW & etc.s
http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?6,4011323,page=1

Ted in OR



Date: 02/14/17 09:39
Re: Big EMD's x Tiny GE's (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

Hi, yes there is. Go to my website http://minasgeraisrailways.ning.com/ (members only) and search for the page LOCOMOTIVAS USADAS in de the main menu. There you will find a Excel document with almost all ex USA diesel found in Brazil nowadays.





gobbl3gook Wrote:
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> Nice pics.  Is there a source for the original
> owners of these particular EMDs?  
>
> I assume they're part of this group of UP/CP/DRGW
> & etc.s
> http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?6,4
> 011323,page=1
>
> Ted in OR

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1




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