Western Railroad Discussion > Alameda Trench question

Which RR has the most traffic in and out of the trench, BNSF or UP?

Also, has anyone out here in LA ever rail fanned Perino Pl (UP xing), or down by 24th & Harriet Ave?

According to the Alameda Corridor website, there were 1,120 trains on the Corridor in the month of September, or 37.3 a day on average. I believe UP has a slight edge on traffic, but not by much. If 37 is the daily average, I’m guessing 20 are UP and 17 are BNSF.

Andrew

CPRR Wrote:
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> Which RR has the most traffic in and out of the
> trench, BNSF or UP?

In October, 2016, it was about even between BNSF and UP.  A lot of dry statistics here, but you can read the more interesting stuff in bold letters-  
<https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,4137668,4137929#msg-4137929&gt;

mapboy

It always seems to me that UP tends to run slightly more traffic, though there tends to be more BNSF activity south of ICTF since PHL tends to handle most UP inbound traffic south of there whereas BNSF often uses their own crews. I've photographed trains at both locations you noted without issues.

rbmn5022 Wrote:
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> It always seems to me that UP tends to run
> slightly more traffic, though there tends to be
> more BNSF activity south of ICTF since PHL tends
> to handle most UP inbound traffic south of there
> whereas BNSF often uses their own crews. I've
> photographed trains at both locations you noted
> without issues.

Thank you very much

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It is interesting the figures on a daily train count has not gone up. This is compared to before the trench was opened. Along the BNSF / Santa Fe Harbor sub the train count was 18 to 20 trains a day in and out.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/12/17 08:01 by czuleget.

czuleget Wrote:
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> It is interesting the figures on a daily train
> count has not gone up. This is compared to before
> the trench was opened. Along the BNSF / Santa Fe
> Harbor sub the train count was 18 to 20 trains a
> day in and out.


Many of the BNSF trains now are about the length of 2-4 in the ATSF era which I presume could be a big factor.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/12/17 09:26 by rbmn5022.

rbmn5022 Wrote:
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> czuleget Wrote:
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> > It is interesting the figures on a daily train
> > count has not gone up. This is compared to
> before
> > the trench was opened. Along the BNSF / Santa
> Fe
> > Harbor sub the train count was 18 to 20 trains
> a
> > day in and out.
>
>
> Many of the BNSF trains now are about the length
> of 2-4 in the ATSF era which I presume could be a
> big factor.

IIRC there was a length limit for trains on the harbor sub.

CPRR Wrote:
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> Also, has anyone out here in LA ever rail fanned
> Perino Pl (UP xing), or down by 24th & Harriet
> Ave?
I was at Perino Place several years ago to get a pic of 3751 pulling a train over the passenger flyover. It was a decent location to get a pic of the action but I didn't really like the area much. Never spent much time in the 24th & Harriet area - same reason.