Western Railroad Discussion > NS SD70ACC 1800/1801 Southbound at Castle Rock, CO

BNSF southbound at Castle Rock, CO with NS SD70ACC units 1800 and 1801 headed to the Pueblo test track for evaluation. Previous TO article https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?2,4519622,4519622#msg-4519622



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/19/18 21:28 by jsnoy.

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Those are going to look sharp when finished.

Those must be EMD-supplied cabs? They don't look home-built like the other cabs. === === = === JLH

They are emd cabs

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Are these wreck-rebuilds, or just age-rebuilds?

NS is going to turn their standard cab DC traction SD70's into widecab AC traction units. The changes in the electrical system requires a new cab AND NS wants widecabs for their road units anyway.

Standard cab SD70 DC to AC plus upgrades



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/20/18 04:40 by Grand87.

highgreengraphics Wrote:
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> Those must be EMD-supplied cabs?

They are Progress Rail cabs as EMD is no longer a manufacturer.

MP555 Wrote:
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> highgreengraphics Wrote:
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> > Those must be EMD-supplied cabs?
>
> They are Progress Rail cabs as EMD is no longer a
> manufacturer.

Maybe but the Progress Rail website still calls the locomotives EMD's.

NYSWSD70M Wrote:
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> Maybe but the Progress Rail website still calls
> the locomotives EMD's.

Correct. EMD is the brand.

MP555 Wrote:
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> NYSWSD70M Wrote:
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> > Maybe but the Progress Rail website still calls
> > the locomotives EMD's.
>
> Correct. EMD is the brand.

Making it an EMD cab just like it's a Chevy Silverado not a GM Silverado.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/22/18 13:51 by darkcloud.

NYSWSD70M Wrote:
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> Making it an EMD cab just like it's a Chevy
> Silverado not a GM Silverado.

An EMD cab built by Progress Rail.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/20/18 20:00 by MP555.

MP555 Wrote:
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> NYSWSD70M Wrote:
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> > Making it an EMD cab just like it's a Chevy
> > Silverado not a GM Silverado.
>
> An EMD cab built by Progress Rail.

If you insist.

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MP555 Wrote:
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> An EMD cab built by Progress Rail.


So do you call Chevy Sliverados "Chevy Sliverados built by GM"?

Lincoln Continental built by Ford

NYSWSD70M Wrote:
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> If you insist.

I'm simply clarifying that EMD didn't "supply" the new cabs.

MP555 Wrote:
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> NYSWSD70M Wrote:
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> > If you insist.
>
> I'm simply clarifying that EMD didn't "supply" the
> new cabs.

Actually, the original comment called it an EMD cab. You called it a Progress Rail cab. Truth be told, Super Steel used to build EMD's cabs (may still). Are those therefore Super Steel cabs? Since there are Progress Rail branded products and EMD branded locomotives, I consider it an EMD cab.

What do you consider GE's Mexican supplied cabs?

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NYSWSD70M Wrote:
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> You called it a Progress Rail cab.

You are correct. To quote myself, "They are Progress Rail cabs as EMD is no longer a manufacturer." So let me clarify again. To quote highgreengraphics, "Those must be EMD-supplied cabs?" The cab was not "supplied" by EMD because EMD doesn't build locomotives anymore.


> Truth be
> told, Super Steel used to build EMD's cabs (may
> still). Are those therefore Super Steel cabs?

Since you bring it up, they are Super Steel-built cabs. Super Steel built the cabs for EMD. But that has no bearing on this discussion as EMD was still a manufacturer at that time. Progress rail did not build these SD70ACC cabs for EMD.


> Since there are Progress Rail branded products and
> EMD branded locomotives, I consider it an EMD
> cab.

It absolutely is an EMD cab.


> What do you consider GE's Mexican supplied cabs?

I don't know, who built them? :-)

MP555 Wrote:
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> NYSWSD70M Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You called it a Progress Rail cab.
>
> You are correct. To quote myself, "They are
> Progress Rail cabs as EMD is no longer a
> manufacturer." So let me clarify again. To quote
> highgreengraphics, "Those must be EMD-supplied
> cabs?" The cab was not "supplied" by EMD because
> EMD doesn't build locomotives anymore.
>
>
> > Truth be
> > told, Super Steel used to build EMD's cabs (may
> > still). Are those therefore Super Steel cabs?
>
> Since you bring it up, they are Super Steel-built
> cabs. Super Steel built the cabs for EMD. But
> that has no bearing on this discussion as EMD was
> still a manufacturer at that time. Progress rail
> did not build these SD70ACC cabs for EMD.
>
>
> > Since there are Progress Rail branded products
> and
> > EMD branded locomotives, I consider it an EMD
> > cab.
>
> It absolutely is an EMD cab.
>
>
> > What do you consider GE's Mexican supplied cabs?
>
>
> I don't know, who built them? :-)

So is a Peterbilt cab a Paccar Cab? An International cab a Navistar cab? Nobody ever talked about a Ford truck having a Sheller Globe cab. This could go on and on.

At this time, CAT/Progress Rail markets the locomotives as EMD's making them EMD cabs. If they had used the cab from the PR43's, they would be a Progress Rail cab.

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NYSWSD70M Wrote:
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> At this time, CAT/Progress Rail markets the
> locomotives as EMD's making them EMD cabs. If
> they had used the cab from the PR43's, they would
> be a Progress Rail cab.

That is correct.