Western Railroad Discussion > KCS orders 50 new units -all GE

Will Progress Rail, CAT, EMD ever get another order? CN and KCS have a total of 250 units coming. Will they exit the new diesel market and concentrate on rebuilds?

Tier 4 units, but no specifics.

I'd love to see a few sets of LNG equipment in the mix. Like the FEC, KCS has some nice long runs, end to end.

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If Cat (EMD) doesn't have there shit together by now building new locomotives, they NEED to go out of business!

nygiant Wrote:
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> Will Progress Rail, CAT, EMD ever get another
> order? CN and KCS have a total of 250 units
> coming.

Has EMD / PR/ Cat finished the order of SD70 T4's for UP, and did BNSF ever order any?

Regards
Russ

It's just "Progress Rail".

NSTopHat Wrote:
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> Has EMD / PR/ Cat finished the order of SD70 T4's
> for UP, and did BNSF ever order any?

The Union Pacific order has about 20 locomotives to completion. BNSF has 10 locomotives on order for 4th Quarter 2018 delivery.

GE 4 life!

txtrainman58 Wrote:
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> If Cat (EMD) doesn't have there shit together by
> now building new locomotives, they NEED to go out
> of business!

Railroads won't let that happen. They don't want to be captive to a single-source supplier. That's why railroads bought EMDs by the boatloads and just enough GEs to keep GE in business. Tables have turned.

MP555 Wrote:
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> It's just "Progress Rail".

Maybe "Not a Whole Lot of Progress Rail" would be more accurate.

Ray

SOO6617 Wrote:
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> NSTopHat Wrote:
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> -----
> >
> > Has EMD / PR/ Cat finished the order of SD70
> T4's
> > for UP, and did BNSF ever order any?
>
> The Union Pacific order has about 20 locomotives
> to completion. BNSF has 10 locomotives on order
> for 4th Quarter 2018 delivery.

Thank you for the info.

Regards,
Russ

Has there been much information out there on how the new EMD Tier 4 units are performing? I've only read bits and pieces of some (what sounded like any ways) teething problems or "one off" failures, but I haven't heard anything on how these units do over all. One expects there to be teething issues for an all out new locomotive, and I still hear occasional problems with GE's Tier 4 engines out on the road too, but since UP is still running their new EMD's, I'm assuming they must not be having major issues with them???

NSTopHat Wrote:
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> nygiant Wrote:
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> > Will Progress Rail, CAT, EMD ever get another
> > order? CN and KCS have a total of 250 units
> > coming.
>
> Has EMD / PR/ Cat finished the order of SD70 T4's
> for UP, and did BNSF ever order any?
>
> Regards
> Russ

Just saw UP 3070, 3074 in Marshalltown Iowa this mid day. 2 others in service area also, 3022,3023 along with UP 9900. Ben

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spwolfmtn Wrote:

I had another one the other day. The thing was awesome. We lost a couple of units uphill on a heavy bulk train.

It loaded way up and kept us going until the other unit reduced load, and the T4 loaded way up and kept gripping the rail until about 2mph.

It just kept chugging away, and is Erie quiet inside and out.

It loaded up over (what we thought) was its rated limit for awhile.

We were both impressed.

None of us had any issues with these in our consist since they have been out here.

MP683 Wrote:
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> spwolfmtn Wrote:
>
> I had another one the other day. The thing was
> awesome. We lost a couple of units uphill on a
> heavy bulk train.
>
> It loaded way up and kept us going until the other
> unit reduced load, and the T4 loaded way up and
> kept gripping the rail until about 2mph.
>
> It just kept chugging away, and is Erie quiet
> inside and out.

Just a quick THANK you for that run down. We don't see enough posts like this!
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> It loaded up over (what we thought) was its rated
> limit for awhile.
>
> We were both impressed.
>
> None of us had any issues with these in our
> consist since they have been out here.

Great report.

Way over the rated max is impressive.

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Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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> Great report.
>
> Way over the rated max is impressive.
>
> Posted from Android

He said 'loaded way up' and thought it was 'over the rated max'..... so not 'way over the rated max'.

MP683 Wrote:
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> spwolfmtn Wrote:
>
> I had another one the other day. The thing was
> awesome. We lost a couple of units uphill on a
> heavy bulk train.
>
> It loaded way up and kept us going until the other
> unit reduced load, and the T4 loaded way up and
> kept gripping the rail until about 2mph.
>
> It just kept chugging away, and is Erie quiet
> inside and out.
>
> It loaded up over (what we thought) was its rated
> limit for awhile.
>
> We were both impressed.
>
> None of us had any issues with these in our
> consist since they have been out here.

Only a GE can be Erie quiet... ;-)

Thanks for the first hand info. Would be nice to see more being ordered by other railroads.

exhaustED Wrote:
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> Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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> > Great report.
> >
> > Way over the rated max is impressive.
> >
> > Posted from Android
>
> He said 'loaded way up' and thought it was 'over
> the rated max'..... so not 'way over the rated
> max'.


The "Loaded way up" part plus the "over the max" part
engaged me.

Still a good report.

Pretty sure we saw it spike to 223 or 233klbs of effort a few times.

The bar graph meter only goes to 200.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/23/18 12:37 by MP683.

MP683 Wrote:
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> Pretty sure we saw it spike to 223 or 233klbs of
> effort a few times.
>
> The bar graph meter only goes to 200.

Pulling like a SOAB!