Western Railroad Discussion > UP On The Ground At DT Junction Diamonds - BNSF Blocked

https://abc7.com/no-injuries-reported-after-train-derails-in-whittier/4640374/

Surfliner report:

We currently do not have an estimated time of tracks reopening between #[b]Fullerton[/b] and #[b]LosAngeles[/b]. Train 565 is returning to Fullerton and will hold there. Buses are being requested to provide bus bridge service between #[b]Fullerton[/b] and #[b]LosAngeles[/b].    

 

Beat you by a minute Dave

That'll make me be a bit more wary when riding on the San Gabriel River bike trail along that UP (SP) line.

Per LA County Fire PIO 8 cars derailed with Hazmat and USR teams on seen.

mt19a Wrote:
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> Beat you by a minute Dave

I noticed that.  But I had a link to a news report!  

mundo Wrote:
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> Surfliner report:
> We currently do not have an estimated time of tracks reopening between #Fullerton and #LosAngeles. Train 565 is returning to Fullerton and will hold there. Buses are being requested to provide bus bridge service between #Fullerton and #LosAngeles.

A rare mileage collectors dream would have the trains re-routed over the UP (ex-LA&SL) from Hobart Tower to South Gate to Anaheim (ex-SP)!      
 

Most fire resources have been released from the scene.

Picture posted to Facebook looking north of the diamonds. 

Where did that random piece of welded rail come from?

 

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Probably on old stick, or future stick of rail laying on the side that once deformed by the impact of the cars, whipped itself over the main. 

triple track blocked confirmed, possible chemical cleanup.  *looks* like it could be quicker clean though.

CA_Sou_MA_Agent Wrote:
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> A rare mileage collectors dream would have the
> trains re-routed over the UP (ex-LA&SL)
> from Hobart Tower to South Gate to Anaheim
> (ex-SP)!      
>  

More like BNSF running a hot westbound Z down the UP from Colton to East LA, then turn the train around right into the west end of Hobart Yard at the UP Transfer track over Washington Blvd. It’s in the works as I type...

Mr. MRL

CA Sou Agt and I made a pretty good detour ride years ago on the Sunset, via UP to West Colton, where, to the surprise of many, one could easily detrain.

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And I am sure that the SP agent at Colton Station was ready to assist you !!!

I did this many years back, when all the UP track was yard limits through East LA, and it real slow going.  But they allowed me to get off at the old PE crossing.

An interesting ATSF detour, in 1958, when storms had the line closed into California, the El Cap and Super Chief detoured from Albuquerque - Deming, then to California.  Stop was made at Colton , where the four San Bernardino Traffic department reps were on hand to assit and they brought over three Red Caps to help.  That was in the days of service.  Try that on Amtrak today.  I went down on my own time to open the SP traffic office so to have phone contact with the SP dispatcher.    Ed

Alco251 Wrote:
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> CA Sou Agt and I made a pretty good detour ride years ago on the Sunset, via UP to West Colton, where, to the surprise of many, one could easily detrain.

Yep, that was before West Riverside existed and we rode past the UP station in Riverside on the street running.  We detrained at Colton Interlocking as opposed to West Colton.  

And re Mundo's comments on detours, I've seen photos of the SUNSET when SP detoured it via Parker, AZ.  I rode a detour over that line back in 1983 under Amtrak.

https://trained-dude.livejournal.com/1983/06/06/   
 

Main 2 is open again as of 1921 hours.  There's a lingering track light on Main 1 so it's safe to say the diamonds were damaged. 

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Surfliners are again operating through to Los Angeles from San Diego.

Are the diamonds at DT of the OWLS type?

SP4360 Wrote:
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> Are the diamonds at DT of the OWLS type?

Yes.

Just curious...could this incident had something to do when I saw a BNSF manifest running NB on the UP through Bakersfield yesterday? It was the only one I observed as I was driving my truck on the 99, so I don't know if this was a "detour train" or maybe a "trackage rights" train. In either case, an uncommon view.