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Date: 06/11/19 03:41
Farmrail at Clinton Oklahoma
Author: trainman7774

Hello All,        
         
I took a trip out west last year. Here are the photos from my trip. 

On September 9, 2018 I stopped in Clinton Oklahoma in hopes of seeing Farmrail/ Grainbelt Railroad.  Here are the photos from my visit.  

1. Farmrail 8253 “Kickapoo” is a GP10 and is former Northern Pacific GP9 224

2. Grainbelt Corporation GP38AC 628 sits at the shops in Clinton Oklahoma

3. Grainbelt Corporation 3636 sits in Clinton Oklahoma


I hope everyone enjoys the photos.             

My Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/people/145294857@N06/             

Chris Hughes             
Hillsborough, NJ   
 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/11/19 03:54 by trainman7774.








Date: 06/11/19 03:45
Re: Farmrail at Clinton Oklahoma
Author: trainman7774

Continuing with the photos:

4. Another shot of GNBC 628, Farmrail 8053 and GMTX 2189 sitting at the shops in Clinton Oklahoma

5. Grainbelt Corporation 8053“Quapaw” sits near the shops at Clinton Oklahoma. This locomotive is a GP10 and is former IC 9053

6. Farmrail 8126 is a GP10 and is former IC 9158, Farmrail 2314 is a GP38-2 and is former C&NW 4628, Grainbelt Corporation 9057 is a GP20and is former MILW 2392 (GP9) and GMTX 423 is a GP15-1 and is former SLSF 108

I hope everyone enjoys the photos.              

My Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/people/145294857@N06/              

Chris Hughes              
Hillsborough, NJ    








Date: 06/11/19 03:49
Re: Farmrail at Clinton Oklahoma
Author: trainman7774

Continuing with the photos:

7. Farmrail 8126 and GMTX 423 sit at the shops in Clinton Oklahoma

8. Grainbelt Corporation 9057 is a GP20 and is former MILW 2392 (GP9)

9. Grainbelt Corporation 3637 and 8335 sit in the yard at Clinton Oklahoma. 3637 is a GP38 and is Former TM 859, GNBC 8335 is a GP10 and is former DTI 964 (GP7)

I hope everyone enjoyed the photos.              

My Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/people/145294857@N06/              

Chris Hughes              
Hillsborough, NJ    








Date: 06/11/19 08:45
Re: Farmrail at Clinton Oklahoma
Author: ntharalson

Interesting shots, thanks for posting.  

I'm having a very hard time believing the 8253 is an ex-NP engine.  And yes, I did check The Diesel Shop and it confirms your id.  However, the number
is consistent with a Paducah rebuild as is the short and long hood configuration.  I'm unaware the IC(G) got any ex-NP Geeps in their rebuild program
but the did get many used ones.  We need some further investigation on this.  

Nick Tharalson, 
Marion, IA



Date: 06/12/19 19:01
Re: Farmrail at Clinton Oklahoma
Author: brc600

Nick; IIRC, the BN used the GP10 designation on their 1400's rebuilds. A few of those were sold. Iowa Interstate got 405 and 406.IAIS called them GP10's. The Milw GP20's were not similar to regular GP20's as built. Additions and corrections invited and welcome.

ntharalson Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Interesting shots, thanks for posting.  
>
> I'm having a very hard time believing the 8253 is
> an ex-NP engine.  And yes, I did check The Diesel
> Shop and it confirms your id.  However, the
> number
> is consistent with a Paducah rebuild as is the
> short and long hood configuration.  I'm unaware
> the IC(G) got any ex-NP Geeps in their rebuild
> program
> but the did get many used ones.  We need some
> further investigation on this.  
>
> Nick Tharalson, 
> Marion, IA



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/12/19 19:01 by brc600.



Date: 06/12/19 21:02
Re: Farmrail at Clinton Oklahoma
Author: NebraskaZephyr

As long as we're tossing loco histories about, Grainbelt 628 (GP38AC) is formerly IAIS 628, originally GM&O 731.

Doesn't appear she ever received an ICG number, found photos of her online as late as 1986 still in full GM&O dress.

All the ex-IAIS GP38ACs (625-628) are original GM&O.

NZ



Date: 06/13/19 08:13
Re: Farmrail at Clinton Oklahoma
Author: ntharalson

brc600 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Nick; IIRC, the BN used the GP10 designation on
> their 1400's rebuilds. A few of those were sold.
> Iowa Interstate got 405 and 406.IAIS called them
> GP10's. The Milw GP20's were not similar to
> regular GP20's as built. Additions and corrections
> invited and welcome.
>
> ntharalson Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Interesting shots, thanks for posting.  
> >
> > I'm having a very hard time believing the 8253
> is
> > an ex-NP engine.  And yes, I did check The
> Diesel
> > Shop and it confirms your id.  However, the
> > number
> > is consistent with a Paducah rebuild as is the
> > short and long hood configuration.  I'm
> unaware
> > the IC(G) got any ex-NP Geeps in their rebuild
> > program
> > but the did get many used ones.  We need some
> > further investigation on this.  
> >
> > Nick Tharalson, 
> > Marion, IA

I am aware of the BN rebuilds into the 1400's.  However, these were all GP7's, not GP9's.  Further, the nose headlight is consistent with
IC(G) Paducah rebuilds, not BN rebuilds where the headlight was between the number boards.  As I said, we need further investigation.
However, it is probably asking too much to have someone read the blue card which is in the locomotive.  Frame number, perhaps?  

Nick Tharalson,
Marion, IA



Date: 06/13/19 11:23
Re: Farmrail at Clinton Oklahoma
Author: brc600

Nick; You're right, and I knew that before you replied. Apparently, the NP unit was a wrecked unit. Paducah purchased wrecked carcasses for rebuilding. A wrecked D&RGW GP7 or GP9 showed up in Council Bluffs circa 1975, it was on a flat car.

tharalson Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> brc600 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nick; IIRC, the BN used the GP10 designation on
> > their 1400's rebuilds. A few of those were
> sold.
> > Iowa Interstate got 405 and 406.IAIS called
> them
> > GP10's. The Milw GP20's were not similar to
> > regular GP20's as built. Additions and
> corrections
> > invited and welcome.
> >
> > ntharalson Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Interesting shots, thanks for posting.  
> > >
> > > I'm having a very hard time believing the
> 8253
> > is
> > > an ex-NP engine.  And yes, I did check The
> > Diesel
> > > Shop and it confirms your id.  However, the
> > > number
> > > is consistent with a Paducah rebuild as is
> the
> > > short and long hood configuration.  I'm
> > unaware
> > > the IC(G) got any ex-NP Geeps in their
> rebuild
> > > program
> > > but the did get many used ones.  We need
> some
> > > further investigation on this.  
> > >
> > > Nick Tharalson, 
> > > Marion, IA
>
> I am aware of the BN rebuilds into the 1400's. 
> However, these were all GP7's, not GP9's. 
> Further, the nose headlight is consistent with
> IC(G) Paducah rebuilds, not BN rebuilds where the
> headlight was between the number boards.  As I
> said, we need further investigation.
> However, it is probably asking too much to have
> someone read the blue card which is in the
> locomotive.  Frame number, perhaps?  
>
> Nick Tharalson,
> Marion, IA



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