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Date: 06/12/19 14:10
Phoenix Union Station for sale.
Author: MAP1024

Phoenix Union Station for sale.
(changes coming to ownership, development, and potential preservation for the venerable 1923 depot)

Big preservation alert 
By the ROGUE COLUMNIST
JUNE 11, 2019
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Date: 06/12/19 16:11
Re: Phoenix Union Station for sale.
Author: callum_out

It's not like it's needed for Amtrak.

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Date: 06/12/19 16:31
Re: Phoenix Union Station for sale.
Author: Misfit138

Not worried. It will be preserved. Even without Amtrak, It's large enough to have have multi -tenants including restaurant space. Even after it started as a city funded fiasco, the Tucson depot is doing pretty well these days. -Matt



Date: 06/12/19 17:09
Re: Phoenix Union Station for sale.
Author: callum_out

How is the Tucson Trolley doing?

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Date: 06/12/19 17:45
Re: Phoenix Union Station for sale.
Author: Misfit138

callum_out Wrote:
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> How is the Tucson Trolley doing?
>
> Out

You mean the Sun Link Urban Trolley? It's still making traffic more difficult while not meeting it's revenue goals. The city got monorail scammed on that one from the Portland Streetcar Co. Apples to oranges between the two projects though. -Matt



Date: 06/12/19 21:36
Re: Phoenix Union Station for sale.
Author: coach

It woiuld be great if AMTRAK actually stopped in the HUGE city of Phoemix again.  



Date: 06/13/19 01:36
Re: Phoenix Union Station for sale.
Author: dan

coach Wrote:
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> It woiuld be great if AMTRAK actually stopped in
> the HUGE city of Phoemix again.  

yep some day, az will have to pay thou



Date: 06/13/19 03:48
Re: Phoenix Union Station for sale.
Author: BigDave

Misfit138 Wrote:
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> callum_out Wrote:
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> > How is the Tucson Trolley doing?
> >
> > Out
>
> You mean the Sun Link Urban Trolley? It's still
> making traffic more difficult while not meeting
> it's revenue goals. The city got monorail scammed
> on that one from the Portland Streetcar Co. Apples
> to oranges between the two projects though. -Matt

I know the Seattle's South Lake Union Trolley was called the SLUT - (which is why the folks who support it call it the Streetcar instead) Didn't realize Tucson had also found a way to use the acronym!



Date: 06/13/19 08:09
Re: Phoenix Union Station for sale.
Author: Nomad

BigDave Wrote:
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> Misfit138 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > callum_out Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > How is the Tucson Trolley doing?
> > >
> > > Out
> >
> > You mean the Sun Link Urban Trolley? It's still
> > making traffic more difficult while not meeting
> > it's revenue goals. The city got monorail
> scammed
> > on that one from the Portland Streetcar Co.
> Apples
> > to oranges between the two projects though.
> -Matt
>
> I know the Seattle's South Lake Union Trolley was
> called the SLUT - (which is why the folks who
> support it call it the Streetcar instead) Didn't
> realize Tucson had also found a way to use the
> acronym!

And here I always thought that stood for the Salt Lake Urban Transit system...

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Date: 06/13/19 09:04
Re: Phoenix Union Station for sale.
Author: colehour

dan Wrote:
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> coach Wrote:
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> > It woiuld be great if AMTRAK actually stopped
> in
> > the HUGE city of Phoemix again.  
>
> yep some day, az will have to pay thou

I just went by the station last month when I was on jury duty in downtown Phoenix, and had the same thought. It was more than 20 years ago that the station served passengers, and I don't think that it was actually busy during its final years. Phoenix was not an important city when the rails were being laid, and until about 1920, Bisbee was the largest city in AZ. Hence, the city of Phoenix was not on the main line.

Apparently, there have been efforts to revive rail traffic, but I've heard of nothing in the last two years I've lived in the Valley of the Sun. On the other hand, plans are afoot to update Sky Harbor airport to serve greatly increased traffic there. 

 



Date: 06/13/19 10:45
Re: Phoenix Union Station for sale.
Author: jtbrandt

colehour Wrote:

>
> Apparently, there have been efforts to revive rail
> traffic, but I've heard of nothing in the last two
> years I've lived in the Valley of the Sun. On the
> other hand, plans are afoot to update Sky Harbor
> airport to serve greatly increased traffic
> there. 
>
>  

Did you see  that those plans including trenching the line to expand the airport to the north? It was in an AZCentral article yesterday.



Date: 06/13/19 11:51
Re: Phoenix Union Station for sale.
Author: ts1457

jtbrandt Wrote:
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> Did you see  that those plans including trenching
> the line to expand the airport to the north? It
> was in an AZCentral article yesterday.

I hope the trench will be planned for more than a single track.



Date: 06/13/19 14:19
Re: Phoenix Union Station for sale.
Author: jtbrandt

ts1457 Wrote:
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> jtbrandt Wrote:
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> > Did you see  that those plans including
> trenching
> > the line to expand the airport to the north? It
> > was in an AZCentral article yesterday.
>
> I hope the trench will be planned for more than a
> single track.

I'd think so. It'd be dumb not to, but.....



Date: 06/13/19 15:18
Re: Phoenix Union Station for sale.
Author: callum_out

I think it's two tracks out behind the Garratt plant so I'd assume they put both in the trench. That airport is already huge, be soimething
to see it even bigger. Used to fly into there on Air West, one major terminal, damn near hit the outer fence every trip on hot days. Freaked
me out a few years ago, always wondered what happened to the old terminal, they just built around it and preserved it in the new
building, pretty neat. Heard that's the building to be flattened and upsized, ah progress.

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Date: 06/13/19 19:17
Re: Phoenix Union Station for sale.
Author: mococomike

The city owns most of the land on both sides of the railroad right of way. They plan to expand and move all the cargo facilities on the north side above the UP. The Hoenwell factory will also have to go.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/14/19 21:56 by mococomike.



Date: 06/14/19 09:53
Re: Phoenix Union Station for sale.
Author: callum_out

The Garratt Honeywell facility is huge and has been there for many, many years, hard to believe they'd either
tear it down or move it. It was our Phoenix office's number one account.

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