Western Railroad Discussion > Trains in Roseville 7/11/19

Photo 1 UP 7219 leads the MRVNP

Photo 2-3  CP 8758 trailing third 

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Photo 4-5 CP 8604 leading the OCAPF into Roseville 

Photo 6 another View between the Poles 

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Photo 7 Amtraks capitol corrider headed back to Auburn 

Photo's 8 and 9  CP 8604 now unhooked and headed for the wye 

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Photo 10 CN 5703 trailing 

Photo's  11-12 more views 

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Photo 13 UP 8811 that woul lead after wying

Photo's 14 and 15 coming back the other way  

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Photo 16 one more of the head end 

Photo 17 UP 8811 the new leader 

Photo 18 UP 7692 leading the ZG2OA off Donner 

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Photo 19-20 UP 8811 North

Photo 21 going away shot  

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OCAPF?  Can't decipher that train symbol....

coach Wrote:
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> OCAPF?  Can't decipher that train symbol....

Kind of a misleading symbol. O is for ore. But also used for oil. CA is for Cawelo, the 2nd siding north of Bakersfield. But the train really has nothing to do with Cawelo and is actually unloaded on the SJVR ex-Sunset Railway trackage southwest of Bakersfield. The SJVR brings the train to Saco (1st siding north og Bakersfield) and gives it to the UP. Don't know what the PF stands for in Omaha's mind, but the train goes to Eastport, ID and is interchanged to the CP.

Nice pictures,

One question, why did the power have to “wye”?  If the UP PTC worked on the Fresno Sub why could it not lead on the Valley Sub? Unless there’s another reason, seems like extra work for nothing.

Top Cat

TopCat Wrote:
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> Nice pictures,
>
> One question, why did the power have to “wye”?
>  If the UP PTC worked on the Fresno Sub why could
> it not lead on the Valley Sub? Unless there’s
> another reason, seems like extra work for
> nothing.
>
> Top Cat

To get a cab signal equipped leader.

Almost every one of these oil trains comes south with a single UP unit on the point followed by CP, BNSF, and other non-UP units trailing. When the train is empty it moves north to Roseville with whatever unit happens to be facing north in the consist. At Roseville they will wye the power to get the UP unit back on the point for cab signals that are needed east of Portand.

ble692 Wrote:
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> Almost every one of these oil trains comes south
> with a single UP unit on the point followed by CP,
> BNSF, and other non-UP units trailing. When the
> train is empty it moves north to Roseville with
> whatever unit happens to be facing north in the
> consist. At Roseville they will wye the power to
> get the UP unit back on the point for cab signals
> that are needed east of Portand.

Ok, that makes sense.  Thanks for the info.

Top Cat