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Western Railroad Discussion > BNSF Derailment Creston Sub in IowaDate: 11/13/19 05:23 BNSF Derailment Creston Sub in Iowa Author: MILW86A BNSF has put 30 coal cars on the ground at MP 447 near McPherson Iowa on the Creston Sub. Initial reports say Main 2 is missing a mile of track and No 1 Main pushed over 20 feet. Derailment is accordian style. No ETA on when reopening. Amtrak has requested detour over the UP today for Train 6-11 and for 5-13.
All for now...... MILW86A Date: 11/13/19 06:53 Re: BNSF Derailment Creston Sub in Iowa Author: trainman Uh oh. Sub my son works !
Posted from Android Date: 11/13/19 10:51 Re: BNSF Derailment Creston Sub in Iowa Author: bmarti7 Date: 11/13/19 14:27 Re: BNSF Derailment Creston Sub in Iowa Author: Klondyke It's a cold winter night sitting in front of the fire so time for a bit of uninformed idle speculation, On past form, once the UP has found a cab signalled leader, they will give 5 and 6 no priority at all and they will lose lots more time. BNSF seems to flood and derail west of Ottumwa quite a bit, so UP detours are not uncommon. Why not send 6 down the Rock from Omaha to Des Moines (40 mph railroad I think, but assume II would be motivated to do a good job,) and then on the BNSF/Wabash to Albia- assume this is a 30mph RR at best. 3.5 hours to Des Moines, 2.5 hours on to Albia. 6.5 hours to Ottumwa vs a 4 hour normal schedule. Usual station stops on to Chicago. Less buses needed. Shades of the Rocky Mountain Rocket. Dozes off into a gentle sleep.
Date: 11/13/19 15:36 Re: BNSF Derailment Creston Sub in Iowa Author: YoungOldHead Klondyke Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- On past form, once the UP has found a > cab signalled leader, they will give 5 and 6 no > priority at all and they will lose lots more time. Amtrak engines have cab signals that work on the UP. They actually have a cab signal box with two displays on it for position light and seach light style aspects. They're also equipped with a selector switch for UP, Amtrak, Conrail, RF&P, and ICG cab signals. The switch changes the display format and proper reading of the coded rail. Following photos were found from google search. Date: 11/13/19 21:46 Re: BNSF Derailment Creston Sub in Iowa Author: Drknow No C&NW ATC. Too bad the old 400 Fs ain’t around.
Posted from iPhone Date: 11/14/19 06:55 Re: BNSF Derailment Creston Sub in Iowa Author: ats90mph YoungOldHead Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Klondyke Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > On past form, once the UP has found a > > cab signalled leader, they will give 5 and 6 no > > priority at all and they will lose lots more > time. > > Amtrak engines have cab signals that work on > the UP. They actually have a cab signal box with > two displays on it for position light and seach > light style aspects. They're also equipped with a > selector switch for UP, Amtrak, Conrail, RF&P, > and ICG cab signals. The switch changes the > display format and proper reading of the coded > rail. Following photos were found from google > search. The "UP" setting is for the Overland Route ATC between Ogden and Council Bluffs, I believe it will also work on the OSL east of Portland... Amtrak does not have a setting for the two aspect ex CNW ATC, they will usually put a freight unit on the point, or, a Metra Engine, but haven't seen that done in a while... Date: 11/14/19 13:24 Re: BNSF Derailment Creston Sub in Iowa Author: brc600 Somebody tried to say that ICG and C&NW cab signals were similar.
ats90mph Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > YoungOldHead Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Klondyke Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > On past form, once the UP has found a > > > cab signalled leader, they will give 5 and 6 > no > > > priority at all and they will lose lots more > > time. > > > > Amtrak engines have cab signals that work on > > the UP. They actually have a cab signal > box with > > two displays on it for position light and seach > > light style aspects. They're also equipped with > a > > selector switch for UP, Amtrak, Conrail, RF&P, > > and ICG cab signals. The switch changes the > > display format and proper reading of the coded > > rail. Following photos were found from google > > search. > > The "UP" setting is for the Overland Route ATC > between Ogden and Council Bluffs, I believe it > will also work on the OSL east of Portland... > > Amtrak does not have a setting for the two aspect > ex CNW ATC, they will usually put a freight unit > on the point, or, a Metra Engine, but haven't seen > that done in a while... Date: 11/15/19 05:39 Re: BNSF Derailment Creston Sub in Iowa Author: Englewood brc600 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Somebody tried to say that ICG and C&NW cab > signals were similar. > > ats90mph Wrote: The now long gone IC cab signals were two aspect, like the original C&NW. I do not know if the codes transmitted through the rails were the same. https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?11,4826670,4826743#msg-4826743 Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/15/19 05:41 by Englewood. |